My one maven experience was extremely... slow.  I wanted to try out Apache 
ServiceMix and it required maven to build an eclipse project.  Following their 
instructions, I kicked off maven and then waited what must have been an hour 
for it to collect all the dependencies and put everything together into a 
project that I could import into eclipse.  It worked, but didn't leave me 
terribly impressed.

Ramsey

On Nov 16, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

> That has been pretty much my experience with it.  When it "just works" it is 
> great.  But...
> 
> 
> On 2011-11-16, at 2:12 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
> 
>> My experience with Maven is: if everything works Maven is dead simple. BUT 
>> if something went wrong you need a Maven-maven or become one to make it work 
>> again (for those who don't know: 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maven_(disambiguation) : A maven is an expert 
>> in a particular field.)
>> 
>> Maven wants to be everything: your dependency management, your build tool, 
>> your software live cycle, your release management and so on and on … Thus 
>> Maven needs a lot of attention and knowledge if you need to fix something or 
>> if you want to do something outlandish (outlandish in the sense of what 
>> Maven engineers think is outlandish). It IS a tame beast if no problems of 
>> some sort occur. But then again when is this the case?
>> 
>> Lars (currently not using Maven and has a love-hate relationship to it)
>> 
>> Am 16.11.2011 um 22:40 schrieb Andrew Lindesay:
>> 
>>> Hello;
>>> 
>>> I have used maven with non WO projects and my experiences have been mostly 
>>> good.  Using maven feels a bit like being on a lovely but narrow garden 
>>> path (with all the beer and fermented shark you could ever want) through 
>>> hell.  If you diverge off the path (break maven conventions) then it's not 
>>> a good place to be, but if you stay on the path then it's quite good.  The 
>>> neat thing I like is being able to go to Eclipse -> Import Project and it 
>>> takes-up your project with dependencies.
>>> 
>>> cheers.
>>> 
>>>> I was chatting with our favorite Icelandic WO Dev and he said "Ant is 
>>>> simple. Maven is simpler, though."
>>>> So, is Hugi right, or has the fermented shark finally pickled his brain?
>>> 
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