I suggest a Ant vs Maven face-off at WOWODC, and to make sure that Ant win, 
it's easy.  Hugi on St-Denis up to 3am, and we put the face-off at 9am :-)

> So you're saying Maven has a learning cliff too?  I probably don't have 
> enough time to learn a second system like WO ;-)
> 
> Ramsey
> 
> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Hugi Thordarson wrote:
> 
>> You sound exactly like the JSP developers I try to explain WebObjects to.
>> 
>> - hugi
>> 
>> 
>> On 17.11.2011, at 16:16, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
>> 
>>> I've done something similar with Jenkins recently. Different projects 
>>> requiring different branches of the same frameworks. It required shell 
>>> scripts to softlink the appropriate frameworks into the Library/Frameworks 
>>> directory and all was good.  I would imaging Jenkins is a bit like Maven in 
>>> the respect that it's a chore to get things right the first time, but after 
>>> you've got it set up you can forget about it.
>>> 
>>> Ramsey
>>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:58 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 17/11/2011, at 6:39 PM, Johann Werner wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Following this thread with great interest, what about a 'match of the 
>>>>> build systems' at next WOWODC comparing ant/ivy/maven/gradle/... ? Anyone?
>>>> 
>>>> :)
>>>> 
>>>> Challengers ready?
>>>> 
>>>> Your first task, set up your environment so that you can build two 
>>>> projects, one for WO5.3.x, one for WO5.4.x, *simultaneously* ... oh, and 
>>>> against different versions of wonder ... ready, set, go!
>>>> 
>>>> And they're off... er, well, some of them are... :)
>>>> 
>>>> Lachlan Deck
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