LOL

with all the properties one can set between Eclipse and WOLips and WONDER I 
wouldn't be surprised if that existed.
You know.. client says... it's slow! We say, ok, give us a few more ounces of 
gold... set the property to NO and voila!

James



On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:

> did you set?
> 
> superMegaDoubleDogSlowLaunchTime = YES;
> 
> sometimes I leave that on in my everyday life - then when I turn it off, I 
> feel like a wild man.
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:54 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I will have to do some more research.
>> 
>> I thought there might be some wonder specific launch time background task or 
>> such that I could turn off.
>> 
>> Thanks for the thoughts.
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 15, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>> 
>>> well, you've added wonder and updated the database, so some things have 
>>> changed.
>>> 
>>> maybe you've just broken an index on the database which is then being 
>>> ignored as corrupt and you need to drop and reindex.
>>> 
>>> java, as I recall, does require some degree of pre-wiring that may add 
>>> launch time with the addition of frameworks, but it should not be a big 
>>> deal and it sounds like you are concerned by the additional launch time, 
>>> and so without metrics - I presume you have every reason to believe it is 
>>> serious.
>>> 
>>> seems like you'll have to do some testing to see how you can get fast 
>>> launch times and ensure it's not just the database or a ton of other 
>>> endless possibilities.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:22 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am not loggin out SQL as nothing changed there.
>>>> 
>>>> When I restart the instance, and try to log in first.... it usually give 
>>>> me a no instance message.
>>>> Then when I try to log in again, I get in and it is slow. After visiting a 
>>>> page, then it is normal.
>>>> 
>>>> Now granted I have no real benchmarks to compare it to, but, after using 
>>>> the app for about
>>>> six years or so, I can tell when it is much slower.
>>>> 
>>>> I did notice that when I first started it with wonder, it actually found 
>>>> some bad foreign keys 
>>>> for me! So I was thinking it is doing a whole review of the database 
>>>> first? Is that possible?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> 
>>>> James 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Jesse Tayler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hmmm.
>>>>> 
>>>>> are you logging out your SQL output?
>>>>> 
>>>>> what sort of time is 'horrible' compared to what you had before and what 
>>>>> are you measuring?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 15, 2011, at 2:09 PM, James Cicenia wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My very old, very reliable app has been updated to Wonder. 
>>>>>> Now however, the startup time is horrible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It like it is doing some enormous test on the database or trying to 
>>>>>> cache everything.
>>>>>> However, once someone has touched a page, it is just as speedy as before.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see nothing in the log files.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am I missing a switch or property or ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> James
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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