I think of it the other way around:

Once you assign a value to someMadeUpAccessKey in your rules, you can make use 
of it in your conditional.

D

--
David LeBer
Codeferous Software

On 2012-09-11, at 1:11 PM, Theodore Petrosky <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> wow, so by using d2wcontext.someMadeUpAccessKey;
> 
> in the condition, it is available as a key to the ruleModeler.
> 
> I kept trying to create a rule:
> 
> pageConfiguration = 'ListAgenda' but it wouldn't work until I broke it apart 
> into:
> 
> task = 'list' and entity.name = 'Agenda'
> 
> don't know why.
> 
> Ted
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/11/12, David LeBer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> From: David LeBer <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: adding a component to a D2W page
>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected] Development" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 10:37 AM
>> InstructionComponentCondition :
>> WOConditional {
>>   condition =
>> d2wContext.showHeaderInstructionComponent;
>> }
>> 
>> 0 : *true* => showHeaderInstructionComponent = "false"
>> [com.webobjects.directtoweb.BooleanAssignment]
>> 100 : pageConfiguration like 'Edit*Foo' =>
>> showHeaderInstructionComponent = "true"
>> [com.webobjects.directtoweb.BooleanAssignment]
>> 
>> --
>> David LeBer
>> Codeferous Software
>> 
>> On 2012-09-11, at 10:23 AM, Theodore Petrosky <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yea, I like your headerInstructionComponentName
>> better.
>>> 
>>> your comment about wrapping it in a conditional is
>> interesting. if I understand, it would be like this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <webobject name =
>> "InstructionComponentCondition">
>>> <webobject name = "InstructionComponent"/>
>>> </webobject
>>> 
>>> InstructionComponent : WOSwitchComponent {
>>>    WOComponentName =
>> d2wContext.headerInstructionComponentName;
>>> }
>>> 
>>> InstructionComponentCondition : WOConditional {
>>>    condition = "";
>>> }
>>> 
>>> but the condition is giving me problems. when I trace
>> backwards to find out how 'hasLeftActions' works, it leads
>> me on a merry chase through ERMDListPageRepetition which
>> extends ERDListPageRepetition which gives me a headache.
>>> 
>>> can I just create a setter for the boolean and set it
>> from the rules?
>>> 
>>> as an aside, I noticed that even before I added in the
>> conditional, when I ran my app, the switched in component
>> didn't show up, until I clicked the "clear d2w cache" link a
>> number of times. Even after a relaunch the component didn't
>> show up right away.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 9/10/12, David LeBer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: David LeBer <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: adding a component to a D2W page
>>>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: "[email protected]
>> Development" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Monday, September 10, 2012, 3:21 PM
>>>> Ted,
>>>> 
>>>> You don't need the WOComponentContent (unless you
>> plan on
>>>> wrapping content with your 'instructions'
>> component).
>>>> 
>>>> You probably want to use something more descriptive
>> than
>>>> 'compName', i.e: headerInstructionComponentName.
>>>> 
>>>> Some thoughts:
>>>> 
>>>> If you can eliminate the dependency on pushing a
>> value into
>>>> the d2wContext that would be cleaner (i.e: reduce
>> the
>>>> squickness I feel).
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Wrap the instruction switch component with a
>> conditional
>>>> that is controlled by rules. With a default rule to
>> keep it
>>>> hidden and a specific rule to show it on the pages
>> where it
>>>> needs to light up.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Replace the fixed text with localized text keyed
>> off the
>>>> page configuration name. Some think like:
>>>> "[PageConfigurationName][TabName]InstructionText"
>> (i.e:
>>>> EditUserOverviewInstructionText). So you only need
>> one
>>>> 'Instruction' component, and the text can change
>> based on
>>>> the page config and tab (if you're using them). You
>> could
>>>> make this value overrideable by a value in the
>> rules or
>>>> pushing a value in the d2wContext if you absolutely
>> needed
>>>> to.
>>>> 
>>>> D
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> David LeBer
>>>> Codeferous Software
>>>> 
>>>> On 2012-09-10, at 1:29 PM, Theodore Petrosky <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I must be doing something wrong because it
>> worked so
>>>> easily.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I created a component "AgendaInstructions"
>> with:
>>>>> 
>>>>> these are the agenda instructions From the
>>>> AgendaInstructions component!!!
>>>>> <webobject
>>>> name=ComponentContent></webobject>
>>>>> 
>>>>> in the html and:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ComponentContent: WOComponentContent {
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> in the wod.
>>>>> 
>>>>> in the method that returns the page:
>>>>>         
>>>>         
>>>> 
>> page.d2wContext().takeValueForKey("AgendaInstructions",
>>>> "compName");
>>>>> 
>>>>> in my ListRepetition component:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <webobject name =
>> "InstructionComponent"/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> InstructionComponent : WOSwitchComponent {
>>>>>    WOComponentName =
>> d2wContext.compName;
>>>>> }
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there anything more I 'should' be doing? It
>> seemed
>>>> too easy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- On Mon, 9/10/12, David LeBer <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: David LeBer <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: adding a component to a D2W
>> page
>>>>>> To: "[email protected]
>>>> Development" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Monday, September 10, 2012, 12:48 PM
>>>>>> WOSwitchComponent is your friend.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Look at the templates, they are used
>> everywhere.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> David LeBer
>>>>>> Codeferous Software
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2012-09-10, at 12:21 PM, Theodore
>> Petrosky
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ok this is what I figured out so far:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 10 : (look = 'ERModernLook' and (task =
>> 'list'
>>>> or task
>>>>>> = 'select' or (task = 'edit' and subTask =
>>>> 'list'))) =>
>>>>>> repetitionComponentName =
>>>> "ERMDSimpleListPageRepetition"
>>>>>> [com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> from that rule, I see that if we are
>> creating
>>>> a
>>>>>> ListPage, this rule says to use
>>>>>> "ERMDSimpleListPageRepetition".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I created my own framework, and
>> created a
>>>> component
>>>>>> "TPMDSimpleListPageRepetition" copying the
>> html,
>>>> wod, java
>>>>>> where they belonged.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> then I created a rule:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 10 : (look = 'ERModernLook' and (task =
>> 'list'
>>>> or task
>>>>>> = 'select' or (task = 'edit' and subTask =
>>>> 'list'))) =>
>>>>>> repetitionComponentName =
>>>> "TPMDSimpleListPageRepetition"
>>>>>> [com.webobjects.directtoweb.Assignment]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and my D2W app is using my
>> ListPageRep.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> so my next step was to create a
>> WOString at the
>>>> top of
>>>>>> my new shiny component:  <webobject
>> name =
>>>>>> "CopyOnTop"/> and in the wod:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> CopyOnTop : WOString {
>>>>>>>       value =
>>>> d2wContext.topCopy;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> so that in my method that calls in the
>> listPage
>>>> I
>>>>>> added:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> page.d2wContext().takeValueForKey("This
>> is some
>>>> copy
>>>>>> Call Reports", "topCopy");
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> and it gives me what I want. I can just
>> wrap it
>>>> in a
>>>>>> div and the stylist and go to town.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> but, can I add a WOComponent instead of
>> the
>>>> WOString?
>>>>>> If yes, the bindings are not obvious. I
>> will keep
>>>> looking
>>>>>> maybe a solution will jump out and bite
>> me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> adding a component would be handier,
>> easier if
>>>> I had a
>>>>>> few paragraphs of information to add.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Jesse Tayler <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: adding a component to
>> a D2W
>>>> page
>>>>>>>> To: "Theodore Petrosky" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September 5, 2012,
>> 11:01
>>>> AM
>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure you are getting
>>>>>>>> confused but I'm not looking at it
>> either.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> so, the factory is just going to
>> return
>>>> whatever
>>>>>> list page a
>>>>>>>> rule somewhere tells it to, right?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> so, there's not "the" list page,
>> there's
>>>> some rule
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> saying with this entity, and this
>> task, use
>>>> this
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> so, whatever your tab menu is
>> doing, it's
>>>> calling a
>>>>>> rule to
>>>>>>>> get the list page --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> you might have to write six rules
>> to get
>>>> the list
>>>>>> page to
>>>>>>>> fire when you want, but it doesn't
>> matter
>>>> how many
>>>>>> pages you
>>>>>>>> create - you're the programmer!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> now, if you're lost on this - try
>> writing
>>>> some
>>>>>> rules that do
>>>>>>>> something you can see clearly on
>> screen in
>>>> the same
>>>>>> context
>>>>>>>> -- this will help you see what
>> rules are
>>>> firing and
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> level of specificity you need to
>> override
>>>> whatever
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> currently firing.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sometimes you can even find the
>> rule that's
>>>> firing
>>>>>> in some
>>>>>>>> framework and copy it, raise the
>> priority
>>>> and
>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>>> page name to your page.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> see where I'm going on that?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hope that sheds some light --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 10:44 AM,
>> Theodore
>>>> Petrosky
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> this is what I thought
>> however:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> lpi =
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> D2W.factory().listPageForEntityNamed(CallReport.ENTITY_NAME,
>>>>>>>> session());
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is the page I need to
>> target. the
>>>> list
>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> when I click a tab in the menu,
>> it
>>>> fires off a
>>>>>> method
>>>>>>>> to return a listPage.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> and it seems that I would have
>> to
>>>> create 6
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> listPages as the markup to add is
>> different
>>>> for
>>>>>> each tab.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 9/5/12, Jesse
>> Tayler <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From: Jesse Tayler <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: adding a
>> component to
>>>> a D2W
>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Theodore Petrosky"
>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, September
>> 5, 2012,
>>>> 10:16
>>>>>> AM
>>>>>>>>>> hmm -- I doubt it --
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm saying make a
>> list page
>>>> called
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> TedsCoolListPage.wo
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Inherit from whatever list
>> page you
>>>> are
>>>>>> using now.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> copy all WOD and HTML from
>> the page
>>>> you are
>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> add whatever you need.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> write rule to make
>> TedsCoolListPage
>>>> the
>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>> you use on
>>>>>>>>>> that list, instead of
>> whatever you
>>>> are
>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> make sense?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:15
>> AM,
>>>> Theodore
>>>>>> Petrosky
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I have six tabs. I want
>> to
>>>> subclass the
>>>>>> List*
>>>>>>>> page so
>>>>>>>>>> that I can fly in some
>> markup
>>>> before the
>>>>>> table.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that
>> this
>>>> method
>>>>>> requires 6
>>>>>>>> 'subclasses'
>>>>>>>>>> of the List* page.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this what you are
>> thinking?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Tue, 9/4/12,
>> Jesse
>>>> Tayler <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jesse Tayler
>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: adding
>> a
>>>> component to
>>>>>> a D2W
>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Theodore
>> Petrosky"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday,
>> September 4,
>>>> 2012,
>>>>>> 11:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> oh, I'd just take
>> the html
>>>> and wod
>>>>>>>>>>>> bindings from the
>> page you
>>>> are
>>>>>> subclassing,
>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>>>> subclass
>>>>>>>>>>>> or not in java, but
>> write a
>>>> rule to
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> edit html and add
>> at
>>>> will….
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> might be more
>> simple than
>>>> you are
>>>>>> realizing
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at
>> 11:01
>>>> PM,
>>>>>> Theodore
>>>>>>>> Petrosky
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesse,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would you be
>> interested
>>>> in
>>>>>> showing me
>>>>>>>> how to
>>>>>>>>>> use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> subclassing
>> technique? I
>>>> really
>>>>>> don't know
>>>>>>>> where to
>>>>>>>>>> begin
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is time I
>> learned
>>>> something
>>>>>> new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would be
>> happy to
>>>>>> document/record a
>>>>>>>> session
>>>>>>>>>> and make
>>>>>>>>>>>> it available. There
>> may be
>>>> others
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> boat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Tue,
>> 9/4/12,
>>>> Jesse
>>>>>> Tayler <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jesse
>> Tayler
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject:
>> Re: adding
>>>> a
>>>>>> component to
>>>>>>>> a D2W
>>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To:
>> "Theodore
>>>> Petrosky"
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>> "WebObjects
>>>>>> Development" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date:
>> Tuesday,
>>>> September 4,
>>>>>> 2012,
>>>>>>>> 12:54 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi ted -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is this
>> something
>>>> you can
>>>>>> add to
>>>>>>>> your page
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrapper?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if maybe
>> that's not
>>>> a
>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>> solution, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>> past, when I
>>>> have
>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>> complex
>>>>>>>>>> D2W apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I end up
>>>> subclassing pages
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> often make
>>>>>>>>>> container
>>>>>>>>>>>> elements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a
>> 'panel' to
>>>> handle
>>>>>>>> arrangement of
>>>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components
>> and also
>>>> to
>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>> things or
>>>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>>>>> standard UI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elements at
>> that
>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern look
>> has so
>>>> many
>>>>>> goodies
>>>>>>>> today, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> subclassing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using your
>> own page
>>>> (or
>>>>>> panel)
>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>> components is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a common
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to add
>>>> something like a
>>>>>> special
>>>>>>>> error
>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard UI
>> element
>>>> that is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> part of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> underlying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe that
>> helps
>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 4,
>> 2012, at
>>>> 12:43
>>>>>> PM,
>>>>>>>> Theodore
>>>>>>>>>> Petrosky
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have
>> a D2w
>>>> app. they
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>> instructional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text to the
>> top of
>>>> the page
>>>>>> (under
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Menubar).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the text
>> will
>>>> change for
>>>>>> each tab
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>> selected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do
>> I add
>>>> this
>>>>>> markup in? or
>>>>>>>> How do
>>>>>>>>>> I create
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hook so a
>> component
>>>> can fly
>>>>>> in here
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> needed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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