I don't follow, but if your page comes up without any wrapper, you'll know you 
needed it, eh?

but, yes, "magic rules" go down and down in frameworks - read the lowest level 
rules and you'll see the entire thing is all the same kind of magic done 
everywhere.

you might think of a d2wcontext as really just a dictionary -- a dictionary 
with some logic behind the key/value pairs and a few significant keys that get 
recalculated each request - but most are just cached responses that end up 
being a really lightweight and centralized representation of UI logic.

so, d2wContext knows X is this entity, and Y is the task type, then the 
response for what's my page component must be Z right?

since most pages represent a series of attributes, an iteration through 
property keys sets each of the key/value responses on down the line.

more specific rules, fire during more specific contexts.

go ahead! write a rule that accesses your object model's properties for an 
attribute -- e.g.  like maybe a string's column width, and use that to set the 
size of an editor for any string attribute. This one rule can decide for all.



On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Johnny Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Jesse,
> 
> So is it just the "magic" of D2W that says "OK, this is an embedded component 
> so I can skip the PageWrapper"?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Johnny
> 
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> sure, you'll likely need your page wrapper in a page level component.
>> 
>> and these steps sound about right.
>> 
>> I don't think you'd need to make a whole new look framework unless you're 
>> going to do an entire, shared look -- others know better I'm sure but you 
>> can create just a few components that override the basic edit and inspect 
>> and list pages and design them to your liking.
>> 
>> I think you'll have a GREAT time creating your own components for use with 
>> D2W rules!
>> 
>> Got for it!
>> 
>> you'll realize that you can write some java code and design your templates 
>> very specifically, and thus reduce dramatically the number of components and 
>> rules you actually need to create.
>> 
>> write code to reduce rules, then write rules specific to your UI to reduce 
>> code - you'll end up with something really tight.
>> 
>> I've seen a lot of D2W designs where to add a new attribute, you end up 
>> writing three rules for this, two rules for that and you make a tiny 
>> component to link here or there and so on -- if you take this level of 
>> control you have decided upon, you can really design super-tightly to your 
>> UI concept.
>> 
>> Have fun!
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Johnny Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm having a little trouble wrapping my head around this (no surprise I 
>>> know)...
>>> 
>>> I would like to start small and just use the ERXD2WInspect component to 
>>> combat the component explosion Ramsey talks about in his Custom and 
>>> Embedded D2W component presentation.
>>> 
>>> I would like to use my own look...
>>> 
>>> So to get started I should:
>>> 
>>> 1. Create my own look framework.
>>> 2. Create a component that subclasses ERD2WInspectPageTemplate
>>> 3. In the framework's rule file create a rule that the component created in 
>>> the step above is the right hand assignment for templateNameForInspectPage
>>> 4. In my app I wouldn't reference the component I created I would just bind 
>>> my embedded component to ERXD2WInspect.
>>> 
>>> So far so good?
>>> 
>>> If so when authoring my component...  do I still wrap the component content 
>>> with the PageWrapper?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> 
>>> Aloha,
>>> Mr. Johnny Miller
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