I think the problem is not that it is creating needless sessions, but that a 
checked-out session is not getting checked back in.

Chuck


On 2013-03-19, at 5:08 PM, Simon wrote:

> if we have this kind of issue the first thing we do is log out session 
> creation and check the stack traces. stick something like this in your 
> session constructor then check the output:
> 
> public Session() {
> super();
> StringWriter stringWriter = new StringWriter();
> 
> PrintWriter printWriter = new PrintWriter(stringWriter);
> 
> (new Throwable()).printStackTrace(printWriter);
> 
> String trace = stringWriter.toString(); <---- log this somewhere that you can 
> get easy access to
> 
> }
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 March 2013 23:15, Altera WO Team <webobje...@altera.it> wrote:
> Wow, good hint!
> 
> In theory I'm not touching a Session but sometimes, when something in an EO 
> changes I trigger e-mail sending. 
> I use ERMailDeliveryHTML using a component instantiated with a brand new 
> wocontext using ERXWOContext.newContext()
> the component is not referencing a Session in any part. 
> 
> Could it be the cause?
> 
> Matteo
> 
> 
> On 19/mar/2013, at 21:24, Simon <si...@potwells.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> ...or you are touching the session object outside the RR loop. the classic 
>> gotcha is rendering a component in a thread that touches the session in some 
>> way e.g. delivering an email in a thread that uses a component to render 
>> it's content... been caught by that one soooo many times!
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 March 2013 17:51, Chuck Hill <ch...@global-village.net> wrote:
>> Hi Matteo,
>> 
>> You have one or more Zombie (aka Immortal) Sessions, as shown by stack 
>> traces like this:
>> "WorkerThread11" prio=10 tid=0x0000000041848800 nid=0x1010 in Object.wait() 
>> [0x00007f16f7cfa000]
>>    java.lang.Thread.State: WAITING (on object monitor)
>>         at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method)
>>         - waiting on <0x00000000d120b328> (a 
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOSessionStore$TimeoutEntry)
>>         at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:485)
>>         at 
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOSessionStore.checkOutSessionWithID(WOSessionStore.java:191)
>>         - locked <0x00000000d120b328> (a 
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOSessionStore$TimeoutEntry)
>>         at 
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.restoreSessionWithID(WOApplication.java:1913)
>>         at 
>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.restoreSessionWithID(ERXApplication.java:2403)
>>         at 
>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXWOContext.existingSession(ERXWOContext.java:57)
>>         at 
>> er.extensions.appserver.ERXWOContext.hasSession(ERXWOContext.java:69)
>>         at 
>> com.webobjects.appserver.WOAction.existingSession(WOAction.java:190)
>>         at com.tla.calendar.DirectAction.goToAction(DirectAction.java:454)
>> 
>> 
>> This likely has one of two causes:
>> 1. The application is getting OutOfMemory errors, which can leave the 
>> session store in an insane state
>> 2. The app is throwing an exception from sleep() in Session.  If you 
>> overrride sleep() it should use a try...finally block
>> 
>> public void sleep() {
>>         try {
>>                 // Your code here!
>>         } finally {
>>                 super.sleep();
>>         }
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-03-19, at 9:38 AM, Altera WO Team wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm having a strange issue on a WO installation on EC2 (oracle jvm).
>> > Same strange application which had immortal sessions…
>> >
>> > Sometimes (quite rarely) a bounced application (put in refuse new 
>> > sessions) never quits and it's not accessible from JavaMonitor.
>> > If I look at the logs i see:
>> >
>> > Mar 19 12:38:52 B2C[2002] (ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:44) WARN  NSLog  - 
>> > <com.tla.calendar.Application>: refusing new clients and below min active 
>> > session threshold
>> > Mar 19 12:38:52 B2C[2002] (ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:44) WARN  NSLog  - 
>> > <com.tla.calendar.Application>: about to terminate...
>> >
>> > The only thing left is to kill the instance… Which is not nice.
>> >
>> > I'm not overriding the terminate() method in Application.
>> >
>> > I am attaching a stack trace if it helps.
>> > <B2Cjstack.txt>
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Matteo Centro
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