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D -- David LeBer Codeferous Software On 2013-04-22, at 2:26 PM, Kieran Kelleher <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Dan Beatty <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Jesse, >> To be fair, there was such a project right before I graduated from Texas >> Tech University with my Ph.D.. I think it can be resurrected. It is my >> hope that I can do it with my current employer, with the appropriate >> agreements, etc. >> >> The goal I recommend for such a capability is to make the underlying >> synchronization capability of the iOS and ERSync a kind of standard. I >> realize that opens up a set of boxes, good or bad. Although, I think Wonder >> still has the advantage by being more efficient than the other framework >> communities. The other advantage it gives us is a hedge for the day that >> either Apple or Oracle decide to show us some trouble by killing products. >> >> While, Wonder protects us if Apple were to kill WebObjects, if Oracle kills >> Java what do we do? > > Oracle killing Java? ..... reminds me of this Cobol joke: > http://stackoverflow.com/a/244775/772974 > > > >> Oracle has had some bad press lately of their management of the SDK, most >> of which happened for Applets and WebStart. They could proverbially throw >> the baby out with the bath water. I hope that we have enough hedges so that >> neither outfit can create such mischief for so many developers. >> >> Just an opinion, but I hope that I can resurrect not only the project but >> produce it so that the community may benefit. >> >> V/R, >> >> Daniel Beatty, Ph.D. >> Computer Scientist, Detonation Sciences Branch >> Code 474300D >> 1 Administration Circle M/S 1109 >> China Lake, CA 93555 >> [email protected] >> (LandLine) (760)939-7097 >> (iPhone) (806)438-6620 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/19/13 11:09 AM, "Jesse Tayler" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > ERSync is THE design for sync'ing up multiple devices with a remote ERRest >> > service provided by WO. ERSync has been in WOnder two or more years, but >> > because nobody has a working example of an iOS client, nobody has ever >> > been >> > able to make use of it. Most especially me. That was my one thing from >> > last >> > year and I failed to get it working. This year? I will leave with ERRest >> > understood! who's with me! On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:04 PM, James Cicenia >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is ERSync the same as: > > iOS Applications >> > with WebObjects REST Servers > > ? > > James > > On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:55 >> > AM, Jesse Tayler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> just point me to the >> > part about ERSync! >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 19, 2013, at 12:53 PM, >> > [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Check the schedule, we have plans for >> > that. >>> >>> Envoyé de mon iPhone >>> >>> Le 2013-04-19 à 12:06, "Jesse >> > Tayler" <[email protected]> a écrit : >>> >>>> >>>> Speaking of WOWODC >> > - >>>> >>>> I would love to see folks setup up some ad-hok bring your own >> > laptop and build stuff sessions - >>>> >>>> We have great presentations, >> > but >> > people also want to get down to work! >>>> >>>> Ask some questions, show >> > off >> > some things you've learned -- >>>> >>>> This is one of those work-sessions >> > that I'd love to ask if Martin or Hugi or whoever else might help run a >> > bit >> > of. >>>> >>>> Just set aside some time during the show and organize the >> > idea >> > of a few work-sessions. >>>> >>>> Anyone else like to see some of that >> > this >> > year? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Martin B >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Hugi, >>>>> >>>>> I have to >> > agree >> > with you about WO not being maven friendly, but with a few tweaks and >> > minor >> > adjustments it's definitely possible. I've migrated a bunch of old WO >> > applications that were running on ant successfully. The only problem I >> > still >> > have to solve is Eclipse debugging with Maven, but that's more like >> > M2Eclipse >> > issue. >>>>> >>>>> That being said, if you need help I will be at WOWODC >> > in a >> > few months, maybe I could share some tricks with you (who whoever would be >> > interested). >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: Creating a WO >> > Maven project >>>>> > From: [email protected] >>>>> > Date: Thu, 18 Apr >> > 2013 >> > 18:46:00 +0000 >>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>> > CC: >> > [email protected] >>>>> > >>>>> > FWIW I use Maven (and more >> > recently, Gradle) for everything except WO. WO hates Maven and the more >> > influential WO-folks hate Maven too, so currently it's just easier to use >> > Ant. >>>>> > >>>>> > - hugi >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 18.4.2013, >> > at 17:02, Faizel Dakri <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > I >> > believe >> > the Wonder projects have customized pom.xml files that specify the >> > sourceDirectory explicitly. But this is sort of going against the maven >> > standard. There was an old page on the wiki that touched on this: >>>>> > >> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > http://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Maven+Kicking+the+tyres+with >> > out+changing+your+project+structure >>>>> > > >>>>> > > F >>>>> > > >>>>> >> > > >> > > On 2013-Apr-18, at 11:25 AM, Pascal Robert <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >>>>> > >> > > >>>>> > >> So, no way to have fluffy bunny with Maven? How it's working >> > > >>>>> > >> for >> > Wonder then? >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>> The documentation needs……(drum >> > roll)…. >>>>> > >>> updating… >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Use the command line >> > (make an alias, you won't remember it) : >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> mvn >> > archetype:generate -DarchetypeCatalog=local >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> This >> > assumes you have the catalog archetype-catalog.xml in ~/.m2 >>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>> >> > > >>> If so you see: >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> [INFO] No archetype defined. >> > Using maven-archetype-quickstart >> > (org.apache.maven.archetypes:maven-archetype-quickstart:1.0) >>>>> > >>> >> > Choose archetype: >>>>> > >>> 1: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:erxapplication-archetype (Wonder >> > Application >> > Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 2: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:erxapplication-d2w-archetype (Wonder D2W >> > Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 3: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:erxapplication-servlet-archetype (Wonder >> > Servlet Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 4: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:partial-woapplication-servlet-archetype >> > (Partial WebObjects Servlet Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 5: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:woapplication-archetype (WebObjects >> > Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 6: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:woapplication-servlet-archetype >> > (WebObjects >> > Servlet Application Archetype) >>>>> > >>> 7: local -> >> > org.objectstyle.woproject.maven2:woframework-archetype (WebObjects >> > Framework >> > Archetype) >>>>> > >>> Choose a number or apply filter (format: >> > [groupId:]artifactId, case sensitive contains): : >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >> > >>>>> > >>> Pick a number, and an application is created--no eclipse! >> > >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Now import it into eclipse. But is maven layout, not >> > >>> >>>>> > >>> fluffy >> > bunny. You can override the standard locations src/, but then you are >> > deviating from the uber pom. You must specify where the sources are. >>>>> >> > > >> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Pascal Robert >> > wrote: >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>>> Ok, so I'm trying to drink the Maven >> > koolaid, >> > but you are not helping. Somes pages about Maven on the wiki talks about >> > creating projects by command line, so about using archetypes in WOLips, >> > but >> > those archetypes are not in WOLips. >>>>> > >>>> >>>>> > >>>> So, what are >> > the steps to create a Maven project with the "Fluffy Bunny" layout in >> > WOLips? >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> > > >> > >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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