Funny you should mention that SSD. I had a few of those 2012 Mac Book Pros. 
They were sluggish. But I just opened it up, put in an SSD (from other world 
computing [OWC]) and it was like a new machine. I couldn't believe how snappy 
it was. 

So Ray, if you still have that old machine, put an SSD into it. For $500 you 
get a brand new fast computer. Good for another3 to 5 years.

On Feb 5, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Jonathan Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Forgot to cc: the list.
> 
> Glad you found the right computer for you but just in case someone would like 
> to read the review of someone who went the other way I'll state my 
> experience.  I received a new MacBook Pro at work and I had a 2012 model.  
> This new model is easily the best laptop I've ever owned.  I don't really use 
> the retina display but you can scale the screen to 1920 x 1200 which is very 
> useful for me because I like to use Eclipse/WebStorm with two editors open.  
> The SSD is the big difference though - the time it takes to boot from sleep 
> and write files has dramatically decreased.  But most importantly, for me, 
> it's no longer like having a furnace in your lap.  It's very quiet and cool.  
>  I believe it's a combination of the SSD and the processor but I can now run 
> Eclipse, WebStorm, Photoshop and VMWare in Unity mode without feeling the 
> computer slowly turning to a halt.  In fact, I don't even notice a drop in 
> performance with those and about a dozen other lighter weight apps open.
> 
> Anyway, that's my experience...
> 
> MB Pro i7 2.7 16GB RAM with 500 GB SSD
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Apple's MacBook strategy has finally done it. I have bought my first 
> non-Apple computer since 1989. I went to the Apple Store to replace my main 
> dev machine, a 2012-ish MacBook Pro, which worked great for me even if it did 
> seem fiendishly heavy. But I could not get myself to buy one of the new 
> models.
> 
> Sorry I just do not care so much about the Retina display. I want computation 
> power and disk space. Apparently this is too much to ask of Apple. Smallish 
> hard disks and not really enough RAM and who the heck thinks soldering that 
> RAM to the board is a good idea? Really! And at the store I could get the 
> barely adequate RAM or the maybe-enough disk space, but not both. If I want 
> both, I have to order on-line. Wow. Never mind.
> 
> So I got an Asus with twice as much hard disk space and similar CPU speeds 
> for less than half the price. I figured out enough about WIndows 8 to install 
> Ubuntu over it and it is good. I guess if Apple's strategy is to dumb down 
> the general-purpose computer so it can only be a phone or tablet, then they 
> are succeeding.
> 
> It was relatively easy to get my MySQL databases moved over and to re-build 
> my eclipse environment. I will have to recheck the Project Wonder install 
> page. There are some details that may need to be fixed, but nothing that 
> stopped me.
> 
> I think I am going to miss the two-finger drag on the Mac's trackpad, though. 
> And I seriously need to figure out how to left-click on the trackpad more 
> reliably. And hitting the grow box on the windows is a challenge, to say the 
> least. I see the "grow box" icon and then click and, oops, missed the window 
> again! O well. So far, this seems a small price to pay. And can Apple's DRM 
> mess up my music collection, as it has done twice? Nope. And I am so not 
> going to miss iTunes or the App Store....
> 
> Well, it was nice to see that installing and using WO and Wonder on non-Apple 
> hardware is just fairly easy and just works, as it should. Now, back to work.
> 
> cheers - ray
> 
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