Hi Theo,
Ramsey has a very valid point.  The notion of recursion is best modeled by its 
automata representations.  It takes a while in most computer science curricula 
for students mature enough to grasp the mathematics, but you are physicist so I 
think you could dive on in.  It may be a struggle at first, but it is a worthy 
study.  Like many relations between math and physics, the theory of computation 
often presses against external states not included in simple models.

One can draw out the isNumber method using the rules of a finite state 
automata.  Since most OO languages including Java use a stack to manage 
recursive calls, the machine is a recursive  push down automata.    As Ramsey 
said, the states imposed on that stack by Java's Virtual Machine and runtime is 
a matter that has to be either acquired by papers or empirical evidence. 

V/R,

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-----Original Message-----
From: webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com 
[mailto:webobjects-dev-bounces+daniel.beatty=navy....@lists.apple.com] On 
Behalf Of Ramsey Gurley
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:46 AM
To: Theodore Petrosky
Cc: WebObjects-Dev
Subject: Re: little off topic, need help understand a recursive call

Learning new things from new languages is fascinating. Trying to apply this 
knowledge in the language you know doesn’t always go so well though. What 
happens if you give isNumber a really really long string? Stack overflow :-/ 
Recursion is not one of Java’s strengths.

If you want a really fast isNumber and you’re only looking for chars ‘0’ thru 
‘9', have a look at ERXStringUtilities.luhnCheck. Treating your chars as ints 
is the fastest way I’ve found to determine isNumber. It is orders of magnitude 
faster than Character.isDigit.

On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:32 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am trying like mad to learn more. So I have decided to put time into 
> Recursive algorithms. I do not want to start a conversation whether or not 
> one should or should not use recursion in this example. That is a 
> conversation for another day. I don’t believe that using it here will impact 
> the app at all.
> 
> As an experiment I am trying to use one in my validation method. Would one of 
> you great minds take a look at this. It works, but I feel I am jumping 
> through too many hoops. This is my first attempt so have a little pity:
> 
>       
>       public String validateHeight(String value) throws ValidationException {
>               value = value.trim();
> 
>               if (!isNumber(value)) {
>                       throw new ValidationException("There can be only 
> numbers in the Height field! (value was " + value +")");
>               }
>               return value;
>       }
> 
>       private boolean isNumber(String stringToCheck) {
>               if (stringToCheck.length() == 0) return true;
>               if (!Character.isDigit(stringToCheck.charAt(0))) return false;
>               return isNumber(stringToCheck.substring(1, 
> stringToCheck.length()));
>       }
> 
> 
> My desire is to get better at this and learning recursion is very important. 
> Also, when I look at other people’s code, there are times that there are 
> recursive calls and I struggle to understand them. 



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