Thanks Ted,
  I’m giving it a look and already have a question.  I downloaded the 
hypervisor, but I’m not sure what to do with it.  I’m thinking I need another 
program to manage the VMs, but I don’t know what that is.  I’m sure this is a 
very basic question, but it’s the stuff you get stuck on when looking at 
anything new.

Jeff

> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> i was the same way. if you want help, just ask. Getting away from OSX for 
> deployment is really the way to go. Apple does an update, and you are screwed!
> 
> Here are the setps:
> 1. create an account at vmware.
> 2. dowload the free esxi, and burn it to a dvd
> 
> you actually wipe out the osx installation and the mac mini is taken over by 
> esxi!
> 
> of course you could also experiment with Amazon Web Services. you can create 
> a free account that you can learn the ropes with. (it’s free for one year)
> 
> I have done both.
> 
> AWS of course has it’s advantages.
> 
> JMHO BTW
> 
> Ted
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz <jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com 
>> <mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fear of the unknown vs. the enemy I know :-)
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have to ask. why do you want to bang your head against a wall to use OSX? 
>>> Vmware esxi is free, allows you to put a linux distro on a mac mini 
>>> (multiple instances if you want). I use this in the office to have multiple 
>>> centos instances on a mac mini. one is for postgresql and the other is for 
>>> apache. It works great and you can use YUM for updates.
>>> 
>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html 
>>> <https://www.vmware.com/products/esxi-and-esx.html>
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Jeffrey Schmitz <jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com 
>>>> <mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks guys,
>>>>    I’ll definitely look these over, they look great.  I had a quick 
>>>> question/verification.  I’m using Mac OS right now and a quick google 
>>>> indicates no apt-get or yum for OS/X.  Just want to verify I’ll need to 
>>>> use home-brew or macports for that instead, is that correct?
>>>> 
>>>> Btw, I’d love to get off MacOS for deployment but up to now it’s been the 
>>>> path of least resistance.   I’m thinking these scripts may change the 
>>>> equation for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2018, at 5:30 AM, Theodore Petrosky <tedp...@yahoo.com 
>>>>> <mailto:tedp...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeffrey,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Read the wo-install.sh that is referenced here! it will tell you 
>>>>> everything you need to create your deployment environment. if you are on 
>>>>> an OS X box, there is no wget. you need to change that to curl. However 
>>>>> curl is a little different, it needs to know where to put the file so:
>>>>> 
>>>>> wget https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>>> <https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz> 
>>>>> --no-check-certificate
>>>>> becomes
>>>>> curl https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>>> <https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/webobjects/JavaMonitor.tgz> 
>>>>> >JavaMonitor.tgz 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have linked to my version of the install script:  
>>>>> http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR 
>>>>> <http://ftp.agencysacks.com/_Y9AkYUkQgVtlwR>
>>>>> 
>>>>> compare my script to:  http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
>>>>> <http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh>
>>>>> 
>>>>> My script installed git, and a newer version of Java (jdk1.8.0_131)
>>>>> 
>>>>> at the time, I was installing on a centos instance hosted at Amazon. I am 
>>>>> not sure is this is the final version of the script. sorry. but it should 
>>>>> get you thinking about what you can do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:38 PM, Paul Hoadley <pa...@logicsquad.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:pa...@logicsquad.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 Dec 2018, at 12:31 pm, Jeffrey Schmitz 
>>>>>> <jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com <mailto:jeff.schm...@netbrackets.com>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But I’m setting up a machine to use for deployment, not deploying an 
>>>>>>> individual app, so I need to get apache configured, the WO adaptor 
>>>>>>> installed, the webobjects tools installed (wotaskd, womonitor), etc.  
>>>>>>> That’s what I was hoping the script would help with as it always turns 
>>>>>>> out to be a laborious process, at least for me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're right, it is laborious, sometimes difficult to get right, and 
>>>>>> ideal for scripting to automate for the future. What platform are you 
>>>>>> using? We use a (now heavily customised) version of a script Simon 
>>>>>> McLean posted to the list in 2010:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh 
>>>>>> <http://webobjects.s3.amazonaws.com/wo-install.sh>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eyeballing it again now, you'll definitely want to customise it in 
>>>>>> places—you shouldn't need to pull down Wonder source, or build your own 
>>>>>> adapter, for example. But it gives you an idea of what you can do. We 
>>>>>> use our version of it on Amazon Linux on EC2. Should be easily portable 
>>>>>> to other Unixes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Paul Hoadley
>>>>>> https://logicsquad.net/ <https://logicsquad.net/>
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ 
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/>
>>>>>> 
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