Now, there I have a problem.

I've been told twice, privately, by people @ Sun, and in clear terms to shut up, because I was supposedly helping the spammers by telling them what the rules are.

I'm really upset by those advice, however well-intentioned they are.

First, as a list administrator, I was, AFAICT, not told that those rules were put in place (unless my own antispam ate the emails, I had such issues 2 or 3 years ago :-/ ). So my first problem is, the lack of openness of those secret Sun rules.

Now, about the rule itself, since I was confirmed that it's Sun employees that put it in place secretly: why?

How come Sun employees have specisl rights here? I'm not talking about the ones working directly on OpenSolaris, but about ALL Sun employees. Why should ALL Sun employees be allowed to post everywhere? Are they more equal than others? Can't they be bothered to subscribe, or use Jive, like I do myself when I need to? Why then ALL opensolaris.org addresses are not allowed? That would seem to be more fair to me, since ALL opensolaris.org addresses are, at least, working on the OpenSolaris project? (yes, I know why, so don't bother explaining).

There are two categories of citizens, and theey're not differentiated by their work, as in the meritocracy that we're supposed to be, but by their email addresses.

Now, I don't feel any remorse for having exposed that secret rule, so it has to be removed from fear of spammers abusing it. I'm sorry, but this was not right, for the two distinct reasons above.

And please, don't try again to tell me what to do, or to make me feel guilty: you know perfectly well that I didn't actually help any spammer in any way, since it's more than basic to harvest email addresses from the many non protected archives, and use them at will. If you were serious about it, you would close that gap - but some people can't be bothered to use Jive to access the archives, right?

And FWIW, I was managing the email system of a reasonably big government R&D agency until last month. Part of my job was to fight spam, so I understand enough about it, and I've always told people who wanted a whole domain allowed how stupid the idea was (though in more polite terms).

Thank you for your attention,

Laurent
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