Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>> For the benefit of everyone else who might want to use them? (Unless you
>>> believe they're less deserving than Sun, of course.)
>> sure. But this is my position: If Sun doesnt want them (upstream into
>> ON),
>
>
> Err: ON for libpciaccess.
> xwin for the rest.
libpciaccess itself is in the X gate, though it calls libraries like libdevinfo
in ON. I don't remember seeing any open requests from you to have code
integrated into either gate, though I've been busy with many other things
and may have missed or forgotten them. Ideally though, changes to things like
libpciaccess would be submitted by you to the upstream projects, and we'd just
pull them in automatically in the next resync, so we don't have to maintain a
patch, especially not a patch we can't really test or maintain.
> But we discussed this long ago, 1000 times.
> Sun doesnt want. EOF
Yes, as we've discussed many times before, the management of Sun's SPARC
workstations & graphics groups, back when Sun sold such things and thus still
had a group, decided that they were not going to invest in a lot of work to
support hardware that would not be generating any revenue, since it was no
longer sold and would be past the end of its support life by the time customers
started buying support contracts for the next enterprise release of Solaris.
Now that those product lines and product teams are long gone, it will be even
harder to convince new management to spend any resources there.
I'm not doing anything to block you from being able to provide drivers, and
the FOX project is still open to host code you wish to share with users or
other distro builders, but we're not planning to pull any of those drivers
into Oracle's releases. Unfortunately, the SPARC support for source juicer
has been delayed, so you can't yet submit them via there for hosting in the
pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib repo, but you can provide them directly to users
in a variety of other ways.
> This was accepted from my side.
> But blaming users for writing more emails, than they contribute code ... ?
> At least in case of some individuals that is a bad joke!
>
> Shouldnt one be careful with too general allegations?
I'm sorry you took offense to my joke - I really wasn't thinking about you at
all, but the people who post many of the complaints, but have never written a
line of code, have never helped another user on IRC or mailing lists, have
never gone to their local user groups, have never filed a bug or helped track
down an issue, have never participated in design or code review discussions,
and have never contributed to the community in any other way. Even if not
much of your code has been contributed back to the main OpenSolaris project
gates, you've contributed in many other ways.
--
-Alan Coopersmith- [email protected]
Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System
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