Hi Ian, all! Before I start - I cross-post this mail to both disc...@tdf and webs...@libo, because I think it could be helpful to collect some requirements concerning the future web infrastructure. For answers, please use the original thread at disc...@tdf. Thanks!
The issue: There has been a proposal for a mobile version of LibO. Although being a bit visionary in my opinion, the valid question came up, whether there is a procedure how to propose and to rate such (feature) proposals. People on the lists proposed a dedicated wiki table, or a "proposal" forum. Some mentioned ratings by the Steering Committee to somehow "accept" the ideas. The problem isn't that new, so please read on ... Am Freitag, den 05.11.2010, 10:55 +0000 schrieb Ian: > On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 11:25 +0100, Dr. Bernhard Dippold wrote: > > Hi Ian, * > > > > Ian Lynch wrote: > > > [...] > > > Establish a simple Forum called proposals. > > > > I'd prefer a sortable list at the wiki / website with columns for name, > > date and > > proposal (up to 100 char), link to description, bug entry (if already > > filed), > > number of votes, necessary resources and proirity. > > I don't have any strong preferences about the detail of implementation, > I was just really looking at the outline procedure. We discussed that intensively within the OOo project some time ago, since there have been many ideas within the User Experience team. The goal was to have a transparent, community driven and developer friendly process to propose and to rate (feature) ideas. One of the larger projects (Ubuntu) maintains a website that is called "Ubuntu Brainstorm" [1]. You can add any kind of idea that gets a short formal check by moderators - then, anybody can rate the idea and add additional solution ideas. Finally, there are some pretty interesting numbers that can be used to find the high- and lowlights. I started to document ideas for OpenOffice.org (whereas I got plenty of help, e.g. by Ivan doing a mockup for an OOo version [2]). The summary is available at [3] and should summarize what might be helpful for LibO, too. So why didn't we implement that for OOo? The biggest problems were the availability/maintenance of the new website infrastructure (although we got some help within the Sun UX team), and the "what to do if people really desire a certain feature" when it comes to resources of development. So we concluded that it is not that helpful to collect ideas, if the chance for implementation is close to zero. But there have been ideas. We ended up in creating wiki pages for individual ideas that got tagged by "UX Idea" [4]. One proposal is here (including rating at the bottom) [5], that I usually announced in the blog [6]. Well, that works only for a few ideas, but not (really) for a number of ideas that developers might be interested to have a look at. So where do we stand now - people do have ideas (threads covering UI Design, icons, ...), there is plenty of discussion (but too much for the mailing lists), and there are more and more interested developers (assumption, but the current activity at the developer lists is just great). So, do we consider this to be helpful? If yes, then please add it to the requirements list for the website infrastructure :-) A last thing - a visual highlight embedded into the (from my point-of-view) very good web infrastructure of KDE: [7]. Cheers, Christoph [1] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ [2] Example for OOo Brainstorm http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/2/2d/IdeaHandling_Proposal_IdeaTorrent1.png [3] Summary of potential OpenOffice.org Idea Handling approaches http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Idea_Handling [4] UX Ideas in the OOo Wiki http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:UX_Idea [5] Example UX Idea http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/DocumentCheck [6] UX idea announcement in a blog http://uxopenofficeorg.blogspot.com/2010/01/brainstorm-new-ideas-contextual-undo.html [7] KDE Brainstorm (both a website structure and visual highlight) http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#cat83 -- E-mail to website+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/website/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted