Hello,

Under Ubuntu 11.04 , you can set the default login on the login screen
to ubuntu classic. This will disable unity for that user.  In regards
to the download page, I really do not see a way to determine the
Distro via the browser unless the code accesses the user system. The
distro data is normally included in a file under /etc for example
under centos the distro info is in /etc/redhat-release and under
ubuntu /etc/lsb-release

cat lsb-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"


The browser only shows the core kernel data build which is Linux 1386
or x64 . Same for windows and Apple.

Mas

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I wonder is there could be some "hint" given on the download page.  It it 
> detects Linux as the OS, then a text could be displayed with the type of 
> Linux and its known file type need.  That would help some people who might 
> get the choice wrong.  I know that would be just a matter of making a list of 
> the known, or most common, distros of Linux and then matching up whether it 
> uses DEBs or RPMs for the download.  That should be easy to make the "case 
> statement" in Javascript, and easy to add more distros as they come to the 
> forefront of the popular Linux versions.
>
> As I stated somewhere, Mint is gathering a lot of users [according to an 
> article] who want Debian/Ubuntu based OS, but do not want to deal with Unity. 
>  I just tried Unity yesterday and I hate it.  When I end up taking my Ubuntu 
> 10.xx desktop to a newer Ubuntu-based OS, I will have to go to Mint if I want 
> to avoid Unity.  I could not find a place to default that Ubuntu 11.10 system 
> to GNOME that 11.04 defaulted to when it when to from 10.10 to 11.04 on the 
> upgrade.  The 11.04 to 11.10 decided that it had the resources that 11.04 
> stated my system did not have, and defaulted to Unity.  Since this was a 
> clean install, with no data on the computer, I went to Mint.  Actually I used 
> Mint's OEM install to see how it was used to set up a system by a company 
> before it was shipped to the user for them to setup their own account info.
>
> On 11/11/2011 09:08 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
>> Productions<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/11/2011 06:52 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>> You can check on this page what the values your browser reports are:
>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/ZZRSk/embedded/result/
>>>>
>>>> If you think that any info can be used to derive "ah, this is a
>>>> deb-user", then please share the results :-)
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>  It just was when I went to that page with OSs that were Ubuntu
>>> 11.xx based.
>>>
>>> I wonder if Firefox 4.x and up could be the issue?  I use 3.x.x with Ubuntu
>>> 10.xx and the same for Windows.  I do not like the new look for FF and I
>>> avoid it if possible.  Ubuntu/Mint 11.xx used FF 4.x.x as its default.
>>
>> Once again: The info is queried using javascript, and what you get of
>> course depends on the browser, as the browser is who gives the reply.
>> And the distribution can be obtained/guessed from the userAgent string
>> at best. But if it is a vanilla, unmodified string, you cannot have
>> any informatin to judge, and hence you need to choose a default.
>>
>>> Could you add to the list Linux Mint as a detected value for DEBs?
>>
>> Does the information shown on the jsfiddle page allow to derive that
>> it is linux Mint that is being used?
>>
>>> Also, I ran that browser detail link and it only showed that the OS was
>>> Linux, not Ubuntu, Mint, DEB or RPM based.
>>
>> So - how would you determine that it is linux mint? If you know a way, share 
>> it.
>> Once it is know that mint is used, the debs can be chosen.
>>
>> But the problem is that you cannot tell whether the user is running
>> mint, fedora, debian, mandriva, mageia, .... unless there is a hint in
>> the useragent string. And historically only debian and ubuntu who
>> copied many things from debian did have a modified useragent string.
>>
>> Again: If you know a way to derive information about the
>> distro/deb/rpm by means of javascript, then please share it and it
>> will be added.
>>
>> ciao
>> Christian
>>
>
>
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