On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Richard E. van der Luit <erec...@xs4all.nl>wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Op 03-02-12 03:07, websites-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org schreef: > > Send websites mailing list submissions to > > websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites or, via > > email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > websites-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > websites-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > > specific than "Re: Contents of websites digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: google search on start.fedoraproject.org (Máirín Duffy) 2. > > Re: google search on start.fedoraproject.org (Sijis Aviles) 3. Re: > > google search on start.fedoraproject.org (Elad Alfassa) 4. Re: > > [Fedora Infrastructure] #3108: Fedora websites in Polish don't > work > > (Fedora Infrastructure) 5. Re: [Fedora Infrastructure] #3108: > > Fedora websites in Polish don't work (Fedora Infrastructure) 6. Re: > > emails and spam harvesters. (Christopher Meng) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:43:08 -0500 From: Máirín > > Duffy <du...@fedoraproject.org> To: Karsten 'quaid' Wade > > <kw...@redhat.com> Cc: websites@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: > > Re: google search on start.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: > > <1328204588.2030.87.camel@pandamotor> Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="UTF-8" > > > > On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:33 -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >> I totally understand redesigning, but not understanding the > >> dropping of the page - what would be a reasonable replacement? > > > > The rationale is that when people open up a web browser, they want > > to go to where they want to go, and that is very likely not > > start.fedoraproject.org. > > > > E.g., if I open a web browser, I'm going to view my web calendar, > > read planet Fedora, or look something up on wikipedia. > > > > So the alternative is a dashboard built into the browser (Firefox > > provides this via a plugin, I think the others do too) that shows > > your most frequently visited sites so you can easily click to > > access them, since that's what you really want to do. > > > > ~m > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 12:04:07 -0600 From: Sijis Aviles > > <si...@fedoraproject.org> To: Máirín Duffy > > <du...@fedoraproject.org> Cc: websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Subject: Re: google search on start.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: > > <CAKVi-bLTKODiX9-bH8U8UCf=kr_rjf6bnxv1k085ktk2mwd...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > 2012/2/2 Máirín Duffy <du...@fedoraproject.org> > > > >> On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:33 -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>> I totally understand redesigning, but not understanding the > >>> dropping of the page - what would be a reasonable replacement? > >> > >> The rationale is that when people open up a web browser, they > >> want to go to where they want to go, and that is very likely not > >> start.fedoraproject.org. > >> > >> E.g., if I open a web browser, I'm going to view my web calendar, > >> read planet Fedora, or look something up on wikipedia. > >> > >> So the alternative is a dashboard built into the browser > >> (Firefox provides this via a plugin, I think the others do too) > >> that shows your most frequently visited sites so you can easily > >> click to access them, since that's what you really want to do. > >> > >> ~m > >> > >> -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites > >> > > > > I agree with Mairin, the most folks would want to go to their own > > website after the launch the browser. > > > > The only way I could think of having start.fedoraproject.org being > > of any use it to link the user to the corresponding Release Notes > > [1] (as an example). This way the user would have a quick glance of > > what's new and what has changed and they go on with their daily > > business. Another reason for going to that page is the "CommonBugs" > > page which is important, especially after an upgrade. > > > > Unless we something like I mention above is done, my thought > > recently has been to remove it or maybe just replace start.fp.o > > with fedoraproject.org > > > > Sijis > > > > [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_release_notes > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... URL: > > < > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/websites/attachments/20120202/f3bd0e46/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 20:01:55 +0200 From: Elad Alfassa > > <e...@fedoraproject.org> To: Máirín Duffy > > <du...@fedoraproject.org> Cc: websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Subject: Re: google search on start.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: > > <can0s7yt50a6sx2fqjbrok4krl1jcforvcdnxl6mfizm+utq...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > 2012/2/2 Máirín Duffy <du...@fedoraproject.org> > > > >> On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 09:33 -0800, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>> I totally understand redesigning, but not understanding the > >>> dropping of the page - what would be a reasonable replacement? > >> > >> The rationale is that when people open up a web browser, they > >> want to go to where they want to go, and that is very likely not > >> start.fedoraproject.org. > >> > >> E.g., if I open a web browser, I'm going to view my web calendar, > >> read planet Fedora, or look something up on wikipedia. > >> > >> So the alternative is a dashboard built into the browser > >> (Firefox provides this via a plugin, I think the others do too) > >> that shows your most frequently visited sites so you can easily > >> click to access them, since that's what you really want to do. > >> > >> ~m > >> > >> -- websites mailing list websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites > >> > > > > > > I'd say we keep Firefox's default about:home, we don't change > > default homepage in other browsers, so we shouldn't change it on > > Firefox as well (stick to upstream policy). > > > > The dashboard idea sounds good though, especially because more > > GNOME applications are going to have these soon ( > > > https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/Blank%20slate%20helps%20you%20get%20started > ). > > > > > We could install this Firefox extension you are talking about by default > > with Fedora if it's stable enough (and 100% free with no legal > > issues). If you link me to the specific extension, I'll try to get > > it packaged (if it isn't already), which is the first thing we need > > to make it default. > > As some of you probably know, i always have an eye on peoples privacy, > therefor i think it is Fedoras responsibility to guard ones privacy > whenever and where ever it can, as being Free in so many ways. > > Opening a web browser to an outside site always immediately generates > privacy-data to that site, whether the user wants it or not (at least > you generate IP-traffic). > > There are many people who always want to be in control of what data > they send, when and to whom. > > The only good choice imho the Fedora Project can make regarding this > issue, is starting with a local page or with 'about:blank' thus > letting users choose by their selves where to go next on the web. > > > regards > Richard > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk8rnu4ACgkQ3NhUwsVgVoZlhACfZqmlhD7MOnzddWFi8yMeBxHY > n8QAoKKL8zC9tBaCaX85krtOFbb6G9Iq > =AQJA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- > websites mailing list > websites@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites > Firefox's about:home is a local page. Mo's idea is also 100% local. -- -Elad Alfassa.
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