Prashant Srinivasan wrote:

(snip...)
>  
>
>  Question is, how much choice do we want to build into the stack?  Are 
> we focussing exclusively on development environments?
>   

Personally, for the majority of users (and that's not to say large or 
enterprise deployments), they'll want to deploy on the same bits they 
develop on if the capability is there.  In our long-ago past we did 
'desktop' and 'server' versions of OS consolidations-- it doesn't make 
sense to revisit those days.  One stack that has the appropriate 
attributes for both development/deployment is possible and preferable in 
my opinion.  Just as OpenSolaris has stuff for desktops and servers, the 
web stack should be for development and production, if you ask me.

>  How do others on this list think about this?
>
> Brandorr wrote:
>   
>> It seems like a good list. Any thoughts on Nginx and lighttpd?

In the long term (which may be just 6 months out), I think we should 
consider either or both of them in the stack personally. 

Like I've expressed before, most users are just looking for packaging in 
their OS distribution, so from that perspective, there will be those who 
decide upon lighttpd or nginx and we'd love to have as many web stack 
users as possible on OpenSolaris, whether it's Solaris + AMP, Solaris + 
lighttpd/mongrel/RoR, Solaris + nginx/apache2/mod_php/postgresql, etc.  
In fact, it was this kind of thought exactly that prompted me to post a 
comment regarding software clusters to Stephen Hahn's latest (excellent) 
blog on packaging [1].  This is definitely a little different than other 
consolidations in OpenSolaris, where there's a lot of thought put into 
adding something since it may need to be there for a very long time.

Let's walk before we run though-- get a good, solid, out of the box 
experience with a complete set of common extensions into Nevada.  Then 
we can think about other components.

Shanti has already blogged on building lighttpd[2].  Once PHP and Ruby 
hit Nevada, perhaps we we can assemble some blogs to help those who want 
to build on top of the web stack in Nevada.  It's not the same OOB 
experience, but it'll make things easier for those kicking the tires on 
OpenSolaris.

Longer term, if someone wants to pick up the work of integrating 
lighttpd/nginx (either a Sun engineer or a community member), that would 
be great in my opinion.

- Matt

[1] http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/pkg_1_a_no_scripting#comments
[2] http://blogs.sun.com/shanti/entry/lighttpd_on_solaris

-- 
Matt Ingenthron - Web Infrastructure Solutions Architect
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Global Systems Practice
http://blogs.sun.com/mingenthron/
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