There's the beginning of this on the Wiki:

http://webware.colorstudy.net/twiki/bin/view/Webware/WebwareVsJavaServlets

Or more generally:

http://webware.colorstudy.net/twiki/bin/view/Webware/WebwarePropaganda

I wrote some of the Java Servlet comparison, but I was kind pulling that
out of my butt, because I haven't really used Java, JSP, or any of that
-- to mitigate my ignorance it's short.  I get the impression that
Webware shares a lot with Java servlets, even though neither Geoff nor
Chuck have every much used them -- perhaps Jay?

Anyway, you seem to know more: I would encourage you expand on those
pages.  Examples that show Webware's greater elegance, ease, or
compactness would be nice.  I was having a hard time doing that without
unfairly disparaging Java, since my naive JSP samples (or my review of
naive JSP samples) is not fair against my informed Webware samples.

I do see that Java problems could be a potential boon to Webware -- more
than some other areas, where the style is significantly different.  For
instance, I don't think PHP programmers will, on the whole, really be
impressed with the things Webware does well.  Java servlets are close
enough that Webware could be seductive.  If the comparison comes out
well, maybe we could try to get it out beyond the Webware sites.

On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 14:14, Aaron Held wrote:
> I've been in Java land recently and there is some increased grumbling 
> about the way Sun handles thier JCP (Java Community Process)
> 
> See -> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jspa-position.html
> 
> One of the things that attracted me to webware was my experiences with 
> the Lutris Enhydra Java App server.
> 
> They started out as a Open Source product w/ a commercial option. Then 
> they went for J2EE, and due to licenscing issues w/ sun they decidede to 
> pull their OS version of their J2EE server and they nearly dropped thier 
> original Enhydra product.  Enhydra was/is the best Java platform that I 
> have every developed on, mainly due to the OS community and the fact 
> that I can scan the source code if I have a problem.
> 
> I got into webware for three reasons
> 1) I needed an App Server w/ persistant objects
>     So I can code complex classes and have things stay resident
> 2) I wanted an OS App Server
>      So I can learn/modify the code
> 3) I wanted something w/ a fast development cycle
> 
> Python is  a great lang to get into if you know Java. My first Python 
> app was my first webware application.
> 
> I would recommend a Java Servlet developer 'migration' page for the 
> website, I'd be happy to contribute some ideas and writing, but I am 
> swamped until next week.  
> 
> Thanks,
> -Aaron Held
> 
> 
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