James,

Are you saying that the patient login ID is used by the physicians to
login to the monitoring system so that they can monitor only that
specific patient?  And, if they have multiple patients, then they would
log out and log back in with another ID to monitor the other patient(s)?
 That seems a bit overboard vis-a-vis the Reasonableness requirement.
How are passwords distributed to the person(s) who needs to access the
system?  I know that if we tried that here (550+ bed acute care facility
plus numerous other outpatient/ambulatory care campuses - over 1000
physicians on-staff) I'd be chased out of town by the medical staff!! 
When you said that you installed VPN "lines" what are you referring to? 
Do the client's security systems go across the internet to monitor the
activity at this other system?

Cecilia, IMHO, this is an issue to raise with Phillips/Agilent.  The
only way that issue can be addressed comprehensively is by
Phillips/Agilent modifying system security.  See what their response is,
and include it in your risk analysis.  As Cathy said, the risk analysis
is what will drive any action required or controls to be implemented. 
If Phillips/Agilent refuses to do anything about it, your options are
either to live with it (accept the risk), implement compensating
controls (as what Mr. Holler did for his client), or get another system.
 Since I doubt option #3 will be viable, it would seem you have 2
options.  It could be entirely reasonable within the context of the regs
to accept the risk associated with docs being able to see other patients
if the open model contributed significantly to increased effectiveness
or efficiency of patient care  - particularly with a system that isn't
processing transactions and where the docs can't change data.  Take as a
for instance a radiology PACS system.  Ideally, purely from a security
perspective, the doc's login allows her/him to see only her/his
patients.  BUT, the admitting doc might want any of a number of
consultations on a given case.  If you lock physicians' access to see
only their patients, then facilitating the appropriate access for other
clinicians to view the relevant images could take hours or days!! 
Again, IMHO, that is much too much of a detriment to patient care
(imagine a doc with an emergency case where 5 other specialists of
different kinds need to consult - they need to see the image
immediately).  I would document it as such in my risk analysis, state
that we are accepting the risk, and move on.

Andrew S. McLetchie, CISSP
Information Security Analyst
Sparrow Health System
Lansing, MI


>>> "JFH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/28/2003 10:35:12 AM >>>
Cecelia,

We had that same issue at one of my clients and the way we handled it
was to
issue a login ID and Password for each patient. The login ID and
Password
were automatically generated at the time of check-in. The patient
Log-In ID
is a combination of the patients name, DOB and SSN. The Password was
automatically generated and could not be changed. Once the patient was
discharged, the user ID and Password was deleted. We also installed
secure
VPN lines so that the clients security systems (Firewalls etc) could
monitor
all activity.

James Holler
www.hipaaconnection.com 
713.927.2390
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  To Anyone that can help,

         I would like to know how other Hospitals are handling the
security
of their clinical computer equipment. Our main HIS was recently
updated
before the April deadline to accommodate the HIPAA regs (ability to
mark
patient's confidential, individual log-ins, audit trail, etc) but from
the
looks of things - nothing has been done to our clinical computer
monitoring
systems.
         We use GE computer systems for our MRI, Cat Scan, and Nuclear
Medicine departments - the system has a password upon entry into the
system,
but not individual log-ins. It is not possible to tell who did what.
We
recently had problems with someone "messing" with our Nuclear Medicine
computer - so we installed locks on all the doors and secured the room
(which is always supposed to be manned - but of course it isn't!). I
have a
call into the Chief Privacy Officer at GE - hasn't returned it yet
         We also use a cardiac monitoring system by Phillips (Agilent
Technologies) - it is Internet based - Doc's can get into the system
(they
each have their own log-in) and monitor the cardiac activity of the
patient's in ICU, CCU, telemitry and ER. My problem with this is that
any
Doc can see any patient, not just their own. Isn't that a no no? They
can't
edit or make changes, just view.
         Does anyone have any specific references for this? Any help
would
be appreciated. Thanks.

  Cecelia Sheridan, HIPAA Privacy/Security Officer
  Southampton Hospital
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