Guess I spoke too soon. After a reboot, weewx won't start. IOError: [Errno 
13] Permission denied: '/var/run/weewx.pid'

On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 4:37:44 PM UTC-4, Steve Chiz wrote:
>
> Basically, it was my lack of understanding on how the .rules files work. I 
> appreciate the explanation of the granular permissions as it helped me 
> understand the 'why'. I am not worried about others plugging USB devices 
> into the pi, so I went ahead and edited the 99-usb.rules and added my newly 
> created weewx user to the plugdev group. I am successfully running weewx as 
> non-root, thanks again!  WeeWx still complains that my key verification 
> fails, but I can directly ssh successfully to my remote host as the weewx 
> user without a password, so I'm close. 
>
> Oh, and thanks for updating the wiki. I had run the "lsusb", I just wasn't 
> entirely sure what to do with the output. The edit makes it more clear.
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:28:35 AM UTC-4, Leon Shaner wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>> Hope it works!  =D
>>
>> I just updated the wiki.  That section now reads:
>>
>> First find the idVendor and idProduct of your weatherstation with lsusb 
>> command 
>> then add a rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ with this content:
>>
>> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="your_value", 
>> ATTR{idProduct}=="your_value", ACTION=="add", GROUP="weewx", MODE="0664"
>>
>> Name the udev rules file something descriptive, such as an abbreviation 
>> of your weatherstation model or just weewx.rules, a la 
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/weewx.rules (extension must be .rules and filename 
>> should be simple, no spaces or special characters other than '-' and/or '_' 
>> and should not contain more than one period '.').
>>
>> Regards,
>> \Leon
>> --
>> Leon Shaner :: Dearborn, Michigan (iPad Pro)
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Leon Shaner <le...@isylum.org> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> In my first reply, I failed to answer your first question.
>>
>> Yes, if you use the first form with idVendor, idProduct explicitly filled 
>> in, you can call the UDEV rules file anything you like, as long as the 
>> extension is .rules and you place it in the /etc/udev/rules.d directory.
>>
>> I used a more generic /etc/udev/rules.d/99-usb.rules in my example, 
>> because my example is very generic, not tied to weewx, but would work for 
>> weewx provided weewx user is in the plugdev group.
>>
>> The (optional) number prefixes on the UDEV .rules files establish an 
>> order of precedence with later rules overriding earlier rules.  Really it's 
>> ordered lexicographically, so files that start with letters, such as 
>> weewx.rules will be evaluated after (take precedence over) the files that 
>> do start with numbers.
>>
>> Regards,
>> \Leon
>> --
>> Leon Shaner :: Dearborn, Michigan (iPad Pro)
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Leon Shaner <le...@isylum.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, Steve,
>>
>> That first wiki looks pretty complete.
>> Did you in fact try the "lsusb" command to get the values you need for 
>> the first form of the udev rules?
>> Using the first form with the idVendor and idProduct for your weather 
>> station is preferred.
>>
>> As an alternative, and if it's just you with physical access to the host 
>> and USB devices, e.g. you aren't too worried about other people connecting 
>> USB devices and accessing them as non-root, you can also just do this:
>>
>> File:  /etc/udev/rules.d/99-usb.rules
>> Contents:
>> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660"
>>
>> Then be sure to put the wxuser and any other users in the "plugdev" group 
>> in /etc/group, a la:
>>
>> plugdev:x:46:steve,pi,weewx
>>
>> (Or whatever usernames you care to be allowed to access USB ports).
>> (Your GID may differ from 46)...
>>
>> Notice that for perms, above, I put 0660.  I can't think why "others" / 
>> "nobody" should even need to read the USB ports.  Anybody that needs to 
>> read(or write) USB ports should be in the "plugdev" group.
>>
>> You could of course put GROUP="weewx" in my example above, but then any 
>> user would need to be in the weewx port to use any USB device, even those 
>> unrelated to weewx.  The "plugdev" group is commonly used for other USB 
>> devices, such as auto-mounting removable media, so that is why I chose it 
>> in my example.  If you used my example and put GROUP="weewx" it would 
>> likely break auto-mounting of removable media (maybe you don't care; maybe 
>> you don't use the usbmount service, etc.).
>>
>> Note that changes in /etc/group take a log out / log in to take effect.
>> Check group membership via "id -a" ...
>>
>> Of course the explicit method, per the wiki, using the idVendor and 
>> idProduct values for your specific USB device avoids any conflict, because 
>> then assigning group weewx would only ever happen to that one device that 
>> exactly matches the idVendor and idProduct values from "lsusb" output.
>>
>> Hope that helps!  =D
>>
>> Regards,
>> \Leon
>> --
>> Leon Shaner :: Dearborn, Michigan (iPad Pro)
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 9:37 AM, Steve Chiz <schi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to use the wiki to resolve this on my own, but can't 
>> seem to sort it out. This page suggests I create a rules file, but no 
>> indication on what that file should be named...  weewx.rules?  
>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/systemd 
>>
>> I hunted up an older page 
>> https://github.com/weewx/weewx/wiki/Run-as-a-non-root-user that cites an 
>> example for Vantage (name the file vpro.rules) but what about other 
>> devices? In any event, the contents of the rules file is different than the 
>> more recently edited page. Which should I use? 
>>
>> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="your_value", 
>> ATTR{idProduct}=="your_value", ACTION=="add", GROUP="weewx", MODE="0664"
>>  or 
>> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{interface}=="CP2102 USB to UART Bridge Controller", 
>> MODE: = "664", GROUP = "wxuser"
>>
>> I get that one page is about systemd specifically, which I am using, but 
>> both address the need to run weewx as a non-root user. If someone could 
>> point me to some documentation on how to switch from running weewx as root 
>> to a non-root user, that would be great! I probably should have set it up 
>> that way initially, regardless of rsync, as running as root always seems 
>> like a risky idea.
>>
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