Dear Leon,

Your approach is flawed. It won’t work for historical data.

If you run

wunderdates —date=2019-01-01   at 9pm your time   you will receive the data for 
2018-12-31  (because your station is a day behind UTC at the time of the 
request, so it gives you the data for the previous day).

On the other hand, if you run

wunderdates —date=2019-01-01   at 9am your time   you will receive the data for 
2019-01-01  (because your station is in the same day as UTC at the time of the 
request).

If I do the same thing (I’m in UTC+10)

wunderdates —date=2019-01-01   at 9pm my time  produces the data for 2019-01-01 
(because my station is in the same day as UTC at the time of the request)  but
wunderdates —date=2019-01-01   at 9am my time produces the data for 2019-01-02 
(because my station is a day ahead of UTC at the time of the request)

Rod

On 2 Jun 2019, at 3:17 am, Leon Shaner 
<l...@isylum.org<mailto:l...@isylum.org>> wrote:

All,

I'm testing a new approach.  Below you will find links to an updated 
wunderdates utility that can be used to validate whether I am on the right 
track.
The wunderdates utility simply dumps out timestamp related records from what WU 
returns from the query.

We're looking mainly at the obsTimeUtc and obsTimeLocal values, which were 
demonstrated under the prior approach to be returning the wrong dates when 
within the stations localtime +/- offset from UTC.

The new approach is to detect if the requested date is 'today' and if so, use a 
different API URL that already assumes 'today' and will hopefully not be 
subject to the UTC offset bugs we've been chasing with the historical data API 
URL.

I have my crontab set to do another test approaching my UTC offset, just after 
coming within the offset, and then again just before and after midnight 
localtime.
(Same test I did before, but now with the new approach in place).

Here is the utility for anyone else that wants to check out the behavior:

https://github.com/UberEclectic/weewx/blob/wuapi/bin/wunderdates3
https://github.com/UberEclectic/weewx/blob/wuapi/bin/wunderdates4

Which version you pull will depend on which base weewx you are running.
Pull the one that matches your weewx version and place it in bin, next to 
wunderfixer, and it will take the same arguments as wunderfixer.

You can just try wunderfixer as you normally would (with --apikey) and then run 
wunderdates(3 or 4) with exact same arguments to be able to see what actual 
timestamps WU is sending back for the date queried.
Parameters like --epsilon don't have any effect in the case of wunderdates, but 
I left it there so you don't have to change options when running the util to 
get the debug output.

Regards,
\Leon
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On May 30, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Leon Shaner 
<l...@isylum.org<mailto:l...@isylum.org>> wrote:

Rod,
Thanks again for this.

Since the in-progress version of wunderfixer doesn't really show you the dates 
that come back from WU, I have written a tool just to debug the dates.

The command-line input and basing of defaults on weewx.conf works the same as 
wunderfixer, except it doesn't look at your DB at all.  It only prints out 
datestamps in various incarnations coming back from WU and as compared to your 
system's localtime.

It would be helpful to see the "wunderdates" output at times like you've shown 
below, a la before and after your localtime rolls around to UTC midnight.

Since you are at UTC + 10, another interesting time would be 11+ hours on 
either side of UTC midnight, in addition to within 9 or less hours.  This is 
just to make sure we're covering all the corner cases.

Gary reported a difference for stations that are east vs. west of GMT, and I 
expect we're really chasing the same bug in that there is some bad math WU is 
doing based on UTC offset, but since an offset can be +/-, the effects go in 
opposite directions date-wise, depending on which side of the UTC dateline your 
station is located.

At least that is what I surmise may be happening, but the wunderdates utility 
should shed light one way or the other.  =D

The wunderdates utility is available at the links below.

https://github.com/UberEclectic/weewx/blob/wuapi/bin/wunderdates3
https://github.com/UberEclectic/weewx/blob/wuapi/bin/wunderdates4

Which version you pull will depend on which base weewx you are running.
Pull the one that matches your weewx version and place it in bin, next to 
wunderfixer, and it will take the same arguments as wunderfixer.

You can just try wunderfixer as you normally would (with --apikey) and then run 
wunderdates(3 or 4) with exact same arguments to be able to see what actual 
timestamps WU is sending back for the date queried.
Parameters like --epsilon don't have any effect in the case of wunderdates, but 
I left it there so you don't have to change options when running the util to 
get the debug output.

What I've been doing is saving the output to files for use with sdiff 
(side-by-side) diff.
Or you can just compare the head and tail of each file individually.

Example for my system before and after my local time on 5-28 once it was 
at/after 8 p.m. here, which is within 4 hours of UTC midnight (I am at UTC-4).

This output is optimized for screen widths 203 or wider.  Sorry.  :S
Mainly the last two data fields in the output tell what we need to know.


pi@nixie:/var/tmp $ head -n 3 59:19:28:5_wu.txt  0:20:28:5_wu.txt
==> 59:19:28:5_wu.txt <==
Using configuration file /usr/share/weewx4/weewx.conf.
epoch: 1559016299 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 00:04:59 utcepoch: 1559016699 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 04:04:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T04:04:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 00:04:59
epoch: 1559016599 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 00:09:59 utcepoch: 1559016999 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 04:09:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T04:09:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 00:09:59

==> 0:20:28:5_wu.txt <==
Using configuration file /usr/share/weewx4/weewx.conf.
epoch: 1558929899 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-27 00:04:59 utcepoch: 1558930299 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-27 04:04:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-27T04:04:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-27 00:04:59
epoch: 1558930199 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-27 00:09:59 utcepoch: 1558930599 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-27 04:09:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-27T04:09:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-27 00:09:59


pi@nixie:/var/tmp $ tail -n 3 59:19:28:5_wu.txt  0:20:28:5_wu.txt
==> 59:19:28:5_wu.txt <==
epoch: 1559087699 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 19:54:59 utcepoch: 1559088099 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 23:54:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T23:54:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 19:54:59
epoch: 1559087702 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 19:55:02 utcepoch: 1559088102 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 23:55:02 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T23:55:02Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 19:55:02
Number of WU records:          240

==> 0:20:28:5_wu.txt <==
epoch: 1559015699 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-27 23:54:59 utcepoch: 1559016099 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 03:54:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T03:54:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-27 23:54:59
epoch: 1559015999 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-27 23:59:59 utcepoch: 1559016399 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 03:59:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T03:59:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-27 23:59:59
Number of WU records:          288


But after my system rolled over midnight localtime, results returned to the 
correct dates when asking for 5-28:

pi@nixie:/var/tmp $ head -3 0:0:29:5_wu.txt
Using configuration file /usr/share/weewx4/weewx.conf.
epoch: 1559016299 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 00:04:59 utcepoch: 1559016699 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 04:04:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T04:04:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 00:04:59
epoch: 1559016599 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 00:09:59 utcepoch: 1559016999 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-28 04:09:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-28T04:09:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 00:09:59

pi@nixie:/var/tmp $ tail -3 0:0:29:5_wu.txt
epoch: 1559102099 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 23:54:59 utcepoch: 1559102499 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-29 03:54:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-29T03:54:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 23:54:59
epoch: 1559102399 date_epoch_local: 2019-05-28 23:59:59 utcepoch: 1559102799 
date_epoch_utc: 2019-05-29 03:59:59 tz: America/New_York obsTimeUtc: 
2019-05-29T03:59:59Z obsTimeLocal: 2019-05-28 23:59:59
Number of WU records:          288


Regards,
\Leon
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On May 29, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Rod Yager 
<r...@yager.net.au<mailto:r...@yager.net.au>> wrote:

Further to this, it has now rolled past 10am here, so the local date is now the 
same as the UTC date. (ie. local time May 30 2019 10:40 AM = May 30 2019 00:40 
AM UTC).

Now I get:


./wunderfixer --verbose --date=2019-05-29 --epsilon=125

Using configuration file /home/weewx/weewx.conf.

Using database binding 'wx_binding', which is bound to database 'archive_mysql'

Weather Underground Station:   xxxxx

Date to check:                 2019-05-29

Number of archive records:     288

Number of WU records:          288

Number of missing records:     0

[root@moses bin]# ./wunderfixer --verbose --date=2019-05-30 --epsilon=125

Using configuration file /home/weewx/weewx.conf.

Using database binding 'wx_binding', which is bound to database 'archive_mysql'

Weather Underground Station:   xxxxxx

Date to check:                 2019-05-30

Number of archive records:     128

Number of WU records:          127

Number of missing records:     1

This means that WU is now actually providing the records for the date 
requested, rather than the day after the requested date.
So it seems that what is happening is that WU is determining whether or not the 
current date at the station location is the same as the UTC date.
If it is, it returns the data for the date as in the request. But if the local 
date is different, it makes an (unwanted) adjustment for the date difference.

Rod


On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 9:29:16 AM UTC+10, Leon Shaner wrote:
Hi, Rod,

Yes and thanks for adding yet another confirmation of the issue.  =D

I can show that if I do the query within X hours of my offset of UTC, what 
actually happens is they report 288 records from the day PRIOR to the one I am 
asking about.
For example, I ask for 20190528 and they give me records for 20190527, so 
*that* is why wunderfixer "thinks" it needs to re-upload everything.

I am in contact with IBM about it and have shown them irrefutable proof of the 
issue.
They didn't respond back yet, which I expect is because the proof was 
irrefutable.  Ha!  ;-)

I expect that they're investigating and would rather respond from a position of 
understanding, or with any luck maybe even a quick fix.  =D

I meant to follow-up with IBM again this morning, but got waylaid, so I'll do 
that now.
Thanks again, and for the reminder.  =D

Regards,
\Leon
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On May 29, 2019, at 6:14 PM, Rod Yager <r...@yager.net.au> wrote:

There is definitely a time zone issue. I am in the Sydney Australia timezone 
(UTC +10 hours).

It is currently 8am local time on May 30, 2019.   (10pm May 29, 2019 UTC)

If I execute


./wunderfixer --verbose --date=2019-05-29 --epsilon=125


I get


Using configuration file /home/weewx/weewx.conf.

Using database binding 'wx_binding', which is bound to database 'archive_mysql'

Weather Underground Station:   xxxxxxx

Date to check:                 2019-05-29

Number of archive records:     288

Number of WU records:          97


Number of missing records:     288


Now WU actually has 288 records for 2019-05-29.

But it only has 97 records for 2019-05-30.


So it is clear that wunderfixer is downloading the record data for 2019-05-30 
from WeatherUnderground and trying to match them with the local records for 
2019-30-29.

Of course, they all mismatch, and so wunderfixer concludes that it must upload 
all the data for 2019-05-29.


Hope this narrows down the search for a solution.


Rod



On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 9:35:25 PM UTC+10, Leon Shaner wrote:

On May 27, 2019, at 12:12 AM, gjr80 <gjrod...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, 27 May 2019 13:16:53 UTC+10, Leon Shaner wrote:
[snip]
If you can see any shorter paths to a more reliable outcome than I have 
achieved so far, then you know know know I will be very grateful.  =D

I am not sure what local/UTC issue you refer to. When I do a 
api.weather.com/v2/pws/history<http://api.weather.com/v2/pws/history> query on 
a station to the east of Greenwich I am returned all records for the date 
specified (eg 20190525 gives me all records for 25 May 2019), each record 
contains an epoch timestamp which is correct and consistent with 25 May 2019. 
Everything is as I would expect. However, when I perform the same query on a 
station to the west of Greenwich I am returned records for the day before the 
date specified (ie 20190525 gives me all records for 24 May 2019 not 25 May 
2019), again each record contains an epoch timestamp but the timestamp is for 
the previous day Ie 24 May 2019. I have checked a number of data records in the 
stations history table and WU is definitely returning the midnight to midnight 
data for the day before. I have confirmed this behaviour with a number of 
stations both east and west of Greenwich.

I don't think there is a local/UTC time issue, I think WU is having some 
implementation issues and for stations west of Greenwich they are returning the 
wrong day of data.

Thanks, Gary!  This was all very helpful.
In addition to what you've described across the east vs west of GMT, I get 
similar behavior if I am within X hours of my local UTC offset when querying my 
own station.
Last night as soon as localtime rolled over midnight, the queries for the 
previous day were correct.

--Leon


Gary

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