Yup, each observation is in its own loop. See the following log messages

4/1/25 17:46:44 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174643 
EDT (1743544003) 'dateTime' '1743544003.599552', 'lightning_distance' 
'22.0', 'usUnits' '17'

4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 2025-04-01 174654 
EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.06267', 'lightning_strike_count' 
'0.0', 'usUnits' '17'

4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 2025-04-01 174654 
EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.066883', 'lightning_strike_count' 
'0.0', 'usUnits' '17'

4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 2025-04-01 174654 
EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.0723326', 'lightning_strike_count' 
'0.0', 'usUnits' '17'

4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174654 
EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.063789', 'lightning_distance' 
'22.0', 'usUnits' '17'

4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174654 
EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.0683196', 'lightning_distance' 
'22.0', 'usUnits' '17'

4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
data-> final loop packet is 
rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174654 
EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.0791476', 'lightning_distance' 
'22.0', 'usUnits' '17'

If subscribing to the event topic is not possible, perhaps you could apply 
the correction on the archive record? 
See, 
https://www.weewx.com/docs/5.1/reference/weewx-options/stdcalibrate/#corrections

rich
On Tuesday, 1 April 2025 at 19:35:02 UTC-4 Andrew McGinnis wrote:

> *What is emitting mqtt ? *
> rtl_433 runs as a service on the same system as weewx is running on, set 
> to output MQTT topics in SI units, via rtl_433 -C si -F mqtt. 
>
> *Are there actual duplicate mqtt messages with the same timestamps ?*
> Yes and no. The majority of all of my sensors output multiple packets, for 
> redundancy.  Many- but not all- have a topic that is something to the 
> effect of "sequence", but but don't otherwise differ in the payloads of the 
> subscribed topics (notwithstanding Acurite's use of multiple message types 
> with mixed topics across them).  Here's a message type 39 with wind avg, 
> uv, lux, and lightning topics included. The packet was broadcast in 
> triplicate, three copies broadcast and received, with sequence_num 1, 2, 
> and 3:
>
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/time 2025-04-01 18:50:36
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/id 571
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/channel A
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/sequence_num 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/battery_ok 1
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/message_type 39
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/wind_avg_km_h 3.21869
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/uv 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/lux 5910
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 344
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 22
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/exception 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/raw_msg c23be7810084cf5696a4
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/mod ASK
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/time 2025-04-01 18:50:36
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/id 571
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/channel A
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/sequence_num 1
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/battery_ok 1
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/message_type 39
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/wind_avg_km_h 3.21869
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/uv 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/lux 5910
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 344
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 22
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/exception 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/raw_msg c63be7810084cf5696a8
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/mod ASK
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/time 2025-04-01 18:50:36
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/id 571
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/channel A
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/sequence_num 2
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/battery_ok 1
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/message_type 39
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/wind_avg_km_h 3.21869
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/uv 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/lux 5910
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 344
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 22
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/exception 0
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/raw_msg ca3be7810084cf5696ac
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/mod ASK
>
> *How is your mqtt subscribe configured ?*
> What I pasted above was pulled straight from "mosquitto_sub -v -h 
> localhost -t "rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/#"".  The 
> weewx.conf section looks like this:
> [MQTTSubscribeDriver]
>     driver = user.MQTTSubscribe
>     host = 10.19.76.14
>     port = 1883
>     keepalive = 20
>     username = None
>     password = None
>     [[message_callback]]
>         type = individual
>     [[topics]]
>         unit_system = METRICWX
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/humidity]]]
>             name = outHumidity
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/rain_mm]]]
>             name = rain
>             contains_total = true
>         [[[br-weewx/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/rain_mm]]]
>       **this one comes from a relay broker so I can capture the same topic 
> twice and handle it differently for QC purposes**
>             name = snow
>             contains_total = false
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/temperature_C]]]
>             name = outTemp
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/wind_avg_km_h]]]
>             name = windSpeed
>             units = km_per_hour
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/wind_dir_deg]]]
>             name = windDir
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/battery_ok]]]
>             name = outTempBatteryStatus
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/lux]]]
>             name = luminosity
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/uv]]]
>             name = UV
>
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count]]]
>             name = lightning_strike_count
>             contains_total = true
>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance]]]
>             name = lightning_distance
>             units = km
> *Which mqtt subscribe variant and version are you using ?*
> pi@pi4b8:/etc/systemd/system $ weectl extension list
> Using configuration file /etc/weewx/weewx.conf
> Extension Name    Version   Description
> MQTTSubscribe     2.3.0     Augment WeeWX records or packets with MQTT 
> data.
>
> *What do a few received mqtt messages look like ?*
> Native mosquitto_sub gets what I pasted above.  MQTTSubscribe doesn't put 
> (pretty much) anything in the log unless debug is enabled.
>
> *What do a few weewx loop messages with debug=1 look like ?*
> with debug enabled, the weewx log looks something like this (filtered to 
> just lightning topics):
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> incoming 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 
> 'lightning_strike_count' '0.0'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> incoming 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 
> 'lightning_strike_count' '0.0'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> incoming 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 
> 'lightning_strike_count' '0.0'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> incoming 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 
> 'lightning_distance' '22.0'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> incoming 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 
> 'lightning_distance' '22.0'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> incoming 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 
> 'lightning_distance' '22.0'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> outgoing 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 'dateTime' 
> '1743544003.5789976', 'lightning_strike_count' '0.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> outgoing 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 'dateTime' 
> '1743544003.5918882', 'lightning_strike_count' '0.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> outgoing 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 'dateTime' 
> '1743544003.5977087', 'lightning_strike_count' '0.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> outgoing 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 'dateTime' 
> '1743544003.5803194', 'lightning_distance' '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:43 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> outgoing 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 'dateTime' 
> '1743544003.5927773', 'lightning_distance' '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:44 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174643 
> EDT (1743544003) 'dateTime' '1743544003.599552', 'lightning_distance' 
> '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:44 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> TopicManager data-> outgoing 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 'dateTime' 
> '1743544003.599552', 'lightning_distance' '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 2025-04-01 174654 
> EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.06267', 'lightning_strike_count' 
> '0.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 2025-04-01 174654 
> EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.066883', 'lightning_strike_count' 
> '0.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count 2025-04-01 174654 
> EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.0723326', 'lightning_strike_count' 
> '0.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174654 
> EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.063789', 'lightning_distance' 
> '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174654 
> EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.0683196', 'lightning_distance' 
> '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
> 4/1/25 17:46:54 pi4b8 weewxd[1166914]: DEBUG user.MQTTSubscribe (Driver) 
> data-> final loop packet is 
> rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance 2025-04-01 174654 
> EDT (1743544014) 'dateTime' '1743544014.0791476', 'lightning_distance' 
> '22.0', 'usUnits' '17'
>
> *What do you see ?*
> MQTTSubscribe looks to be passing the topic payload as the observation.  
> This is expected, as there's no logic applied to a non-cumulative value.
>
> *What do you expect/hope to see ?*
> StdCalibrate should be applying the correction formula to loop packets, or 
> at least that's my understanding.  All of my WX sensors are configured 
> through MQTT. When weewx receives an observation datapoint, regardless of 
> the driver producing it, it should apply the correction before any record 
> is made.  In this case,
> "lightning_distance = lightning_distance if lightning_strike_count > 0 
> else None" should be applied akin to =IF(lightning_strike_count > 0, 
> lightning_distance, "None"), but instead of evaluating to the False 
> condition, it's evaluating to True.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 6:14 PM vince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Andrew - I think you need to more clearly state your setup and which 
>> problem(s) you are asking for help with because I certainly got very lost 
>> in your posts…..
>>
>> What is emitting mqtt ? 
>> Are there actual duplicate mqtt messages with the same timestamps ?
>> How is your mqtt subscribe configured ?
>> Which mqtt subscribe variant and version are you using ?
>>
>> What do a few received mqtt messages look like ?
>> What do a few weewx loop messages with debug=1 look like ?
>> What do you see ?
>> What do you expect/hope to see ?
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 1:43:56 PM UTC-7 gjr80 wrote:
>>
>>> A few comments.
>>>
>>> I don't see multiple copies of a loop packet arriving causing a problem. 
>>> Archive record obs that are averaged (eg outTemp) will be the same 
>>> irrespective of how many time the loop packet is 'accumulated'. Per-period 
>>> obs such as rain and, in this case, lightning_strike_count will 
>>> similarly be unaffected as the difference for each such obs between 
>>> successive duplicate loop packets will be zero. Of course cumulative obs 
>>> will be nonsense, but as WeeWX does not use cumulative obs that should not 
>>> be a problem.
>>>
>>> Also, keep in mind how the [StdCalibrate] [[Corrections]] operate. Each 
>>> [StdCalibrate] 
>>> [[Corrections]] option value is used as the argument to a python eval() 
>>> statement; if the eval() statement  causes a python exception to be 
>>> raised the correction is silently ignored (and if it exists the destination 
>>> obs is left unchanged, if it does not exist it is not created). I would 
>>> suggest your main issue is your lightning_distance correction not 
>>> working as intended (are you sure lightning_strike_count is indeed 0 or 
>>> is it None?). Also, the 2nd of your three lightning_distance 
>>> corrections is the one you use; WeeWX does not use 'nan' and use of Null 
>>> will raise a python exception.
>>>
>>> I would suggest you set some appropriate debug settings (I am not 
>>> familiar with the MQTTSubscribe driver to know what debug settings are 
>>> required) in place such that loop packets emitted by the MQTTSubscribe 
>>> driver 
>>> are logged. Then you will know exactly what is being fed to WeeWX and how 
>>> to ensure it is processed/recorded correctly.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> On Wednesday, 2 April 2025 at 04:52:32 UTC+10 Andrew McGinnis wrote:
>>>
>>>> ETA- 5000+ strike count/min comes from the sensor broadcasting packets 
>>>> in triplicate, and every 10 seconds for lightning. So up to 18 messages in 
>>>> each 1-min interval, with what was the true cumulative count of 303, 
>>>> resulted in 5454 strikes "recorded".
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has a way to suppress duplicate MQTT messages, I'm all ears.  
>>>> I get why sensors will send a packet multiple times to maximize the 
>>>> chances 
>>>> of reception at a station, but weewx (or, at least MQTTSubscribeDriver) 
>>>> sees each one and records it as a separate datapoint to aggregate in the 
>>>> archive period. Mostly harmless, but not entirely accurate. 
>>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 2:28:50 PM UTC-4 Andrew McGinnis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just set up an Acurite Atlas with the lightning detector sensor 
>>>>> add-on.  The strike_count that it outputs is cumulative (after I found I 
>>>>> had 5000+ lightning strikes per 1min archive interval). I have it, and 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> strike_distance outputs mapped to weewx as below. rtl_433 is converting 
>>>>> strike_distance from the imperial 'miles' that is natively output, to 
>>>>> metric 'km', hence the additional units switch:
>>>>>
>>>>>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_count]]]
>>>>>             name = lightning_strike_count
>>>>>             contains_total = true
>>>>>         [[[rtl_433/pi4b8/devices/Acurite-Atlas/A/571/strike_distance]]]
>>>>>             name = lightning_distance
>>>>>             units = km
>>>>>
>>>>> The sensor output always has a strike count and distance, but since 
>>>>> the strike count is cumulative, there should be no recorded distance if 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> delta is 0.  
>>>>>
>>>>> In StdCalibrate/Corrections, I have these:
>>>>> radiation = luminosity / 126.7 if luminosity is not None else None 
>>>>> (<----this is working as expected)
>>>>> lightning_distance = lightning_distance if lightning_strike_count > 0 
>>>>> else float('nan')  (<----does not work)
>>>>> lightning_distance = lightning_distance if lightning_strike_count > 0 
>>>>> else None (<----does not work)
>>>>> lightning_distance = lightning_distance if lightning_strike_count > 0 
>>>>> else Null (<----does not work)
>>>>>
>>>>> The *radiation *observation is being recorded as 0 when *luminosity *is 
>>>>> recorded as 0. But, since 0 is a valid possible output, if 0 != None, 
>>>>> then 
>>>>> 0/126.7 = 0. Fair enough.
>>>>> The *lightning_distance* should be evaluating as 0 or None, but 
>>>>> instead is being recorded as the sensor's output value, while 
>>>>> *lightning_strike_count* is recorded as 0. I went into the db and ran 
>>>>> the following, then rebuilt the affected dailies:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - update archive set lightning_strike_count = 0 where 
>>>>>    lightning_strike_count > 5;
>>>>>    - update archive set lightning_distance = 0 where 
>>>>>    lightning_strike_count = 0;
>>>>>
>>>>> strike_count > 5 was because I caught my contains_total omission mid 
>>>>> day yesterday, and there was thunder last night. Strikes before the storm 
>>>>> were largely invalid, but distance wasn't necessarily. 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2025-04-01 141609.png]
>>>>> Straight away, *lightning_distance* is being recorded as the sensor's 
>>>>> value, instead of 0, or ideally None/null.  
>>>>> 0 is a valid possible distance, assuming I get a direct strike. 
>>>>> Without a strike, it's not 0 distance- there *isn't* a distance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather than continue trying random changes to the Corrections logic, 
>>>>> can anyone point to where the issue or mistake may lie? Is it something 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> do with the referenced *lightning_strike_count* being a cumulative 
>>>>> number? Do I just need to yield and make the logic evaluate to 0?
>>>>>
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