Pete Morgan



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From: Peter Relf <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, 3 June, 2011 23:35:05
Subject: Re: Photographers Rights...

I trust that you are sending a full report and complaint about this incident to 
the driver's employer.  As you correctly say, anyone can photograph anyone or 
anything when standing in a public place.

Peter R.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bray" <[email protected]>
To: "Welsh Bus Photographs" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:28 PM
Subject: Photographers Rights...


> I headed out on my first day of holidays with a shopping list of sunny
> pictures but my spirits were temporary dampened by one 'bully boy'
> driver who went to great lengths to inform me that I was illegally
> taking pictures of him and his vehicle on what he described as being
> private property. Unfortunately he met his match and this posting is
> not targetted at the drivers on this forum or 99.99% of all other
> drivers, but the photographers who may not be aware of what they can
> or can't do with a camera on a public right of way. After todays
> encounter I would imagine that most photographers would put the camera
> back into the bag and call it a day. So here it goes, no names and no
> locations but it was well witnessed by all including his work
> colleagues.
> 
> # Vehicle pulls up to a T junction, awaiting the right of way to turn
> right and I am positioned in a pedestrian precinct opposite the
> vehicle.
> # I compose the picture and note that the driver is waggling his
> finger and I await the finger to stop waggling before I take the
> picture.
> # The driver steps out of his vehicle, causing a traffic jam behind
> him, walks across the road and into the precinct and tells me to stop
> taking pictures of him. I tell him that I am not taking pictures of
> him but of his vehicle. He tells me that I am illegally taking
> pictures of him and I tell him that I am legally entitiled to take
> pictures of him, which I wasn't, in a public right of way. He tells me
> that I am illegally taking pictures of him in private property. Enough
> is enough.....
> # I tell him that I am a UK citizen (jargon for stop and account) and
> I am exercising my rights to take pictures in a public right of way,
> namely a pedestrian precinct and that I am not doing anything
> unlawful. I suggest that he is welcome to carry out a citizens arrest
> and call the police or his manager if he thinks I am committing an
> unlawful offence but he runs the risk of a counter claim for unlawful
> arrest if the police deem the citizens arrest as being unlawful. The
> driver then says that he does not want me to take pictures of him
> driving, so I side step him, take the picture at my leisure and he
> walks back to his vehicle and drives off.
> 
> Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm a trouble maker, I'm not but I
> don't want any other photographer to be bullied or intimdated whilst
> using a camera, its been my hobby for fifty years and I've never
> encountered a problem like this before. I am not prepared to forward
> pictures of this event to anyone else.
> 

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