Sam, Thanks for the insight. We are developing systems and soon every thing will be alright. As far as the issue of the Public University is concerned, we have an adhoc committee. I have been in touch with its Chairperson in the names of Eng. Patrick Okuni. We should rather await the outcome and if anything progress report from the adhoc Committee
--- On Thu, 2/11/10, Sam Aderubo <sader...@newvision.co.ug> wrote: From: Sam Aderubo <sader...@newvision.co.ug> Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Is Public University in West Nile an Urgency To: "'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile'" <westnilenet@kym.net> Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 3:55 PM Mr. President, I am afraid this forum faces danger of lack of regulation, especially in respect to the time it takes to debate a topic. Pardon me if I may have missed communication about this as pect. Imagine Uganda ’s 8th Parliament (excuse me, I am writing from Uganda ) without a speaker. It could mean that debate on Gay marriages (just as an example) would go on and on and on. I believe that however much balanced opinion a debater presents, s/he will at the end take one side, depending on which side in their opinion h as more advantages. That is how you arrive at ( or reach) a decision. I think it would save us a lot of time and energy if some time (say four days) is allocated to debate a topic. At the end of the period, the topic should be put to vote and we know whether members agree to drop it or take it on for further action. Quite often, and indeed if you follow various arguments on this forum, the debate degenerates into what Roger calls ”shooting each others ide as down”, something that is counter productive. I beg to make the following suggestions, Post a topic for discussion and give it a time frame. When the time is up, close the debate. Additional opinions thereafter can always be sent to the adhoc committee that will discuss it and inform members. If in their opinion it requires a wider discussion, we go to square one. Bottom line, all debate on a topic must come to an end. The Systems Administrator (or any other technical person in I.T) could help us develop voting software so that at the end of the period a question is put, we vote and the matter is put to rest. Doesn’t matter if the “ayes” always have it….or the other way round. I am not saying that people should only wait to vote. Constructive views need to be put forward, particularly if no member h as ever articulated that view. It is healthy to debate such critical issues widely, but perhaps we should be mindful about paralysis by analysis. Sam. From: Rogers Anguzu [mailto:rang...@newvision.co.ug] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:44 PM To: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile ' Subject: [!! SPAM] [WestNileNet] Is Public University in West Nile an Urgency Brothers & Sisters, Ple as e let us not make this forum a place to shoot each others ide as down but rather see how best we can work together and if you have nothing to offer you simply keep quiet. We all appreciate the decline of educational standards in West Nile and a committee (Ruffino Committee) and some private member on the network did some research to this effect and soon after all is set with the registration and constitution of WNF we will start to lobby for support and also have the Education committee draw an action plan for how we can get our selves out of this – so bottom line some is being done and we will soon see results. On the other hand, we also agree having a University in West Nile will be a God send, let us think strategically not operationally. This university might not have big time benefits today or tomorrow but in the near future it surely will (Thanks to the well articulated views by Charles Male). Some of us might not be there to witness this but surely West Nile will be a better place say like Harvard and those who will be in heaven will sit down (possibly round a malwa pot) and smile at what we started when we were young and had a chance to influence things and brought development to our land (That would have become the envy of many). Having said that, Caleb’s adhoc committee is simply trying to follow up on a promise the President made to us, it will be a free university, we don’t have to spend (money we may have saved for improving education standards – if at all this is our worry and if the funds are there anyway) to get it to West Nile. These two projects can co-exist and what ever is achieved first is a blessing to the people of West Nile . Let us stop arguing if the University is important or not, at le as t we all agree it is or at le as t it will be sometime in the future. . Cheers. Rogers From: banduga ismail [mailto:bani...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:47 AM To: kevin_sm...@doramail.com; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile ; WestNileNet@kym.net Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Is Public University in West Nile an Urgency Dear Comrades, I think Jadribo h as some valid points. Correct me if I am wrong, this is a public university in West Nile and therefore its management will be on national standards. Whether this will translate into what we are thinking (more people from west nile being admitted, more people from west nile being employed), yes or no. But let us not forget that life is not fair and will always not be fair. There will be the few who will build hostels (those jadribo called rich), there will be the few who will get academic, administrative and support appointments in this university if established. The majority will come from other parts of Uganda . Have we not seen this trend with the Headship in Secondary schools in West Nile ? Those who are alleged to have mismanaged 20 -30 mill public funds will be arrested while those who by all standards have done more harvoc continue to have military ecorts around them and walk freely. This is how unfair this world is? The point of interest with the public university should be, what its multiplier effect will be to the people of West Nile . Whether that will be realized after 50 years from now, surely there will be the positive effect.The question of poor performance in our secondary schools and the establishment of the public university is like the chic and the egg. I don't know which one comes first. As we discuss the performance in our schools visa-vis the public university, lets look at the management in these schools and the discipline of students. You may agree or disagree with me that bad management in the schools will bring poor results. Overloading teachers, non payment of their entitlments are some of the elements of bad management. Similarly, indiscipline by students for what ever re as on will bring poor results. Many of us, especially those living in and around kampala know that schools that are producing good results have these two elements air tight, the teacher welfare and discipline of students. Today, there is more indiscipline in our schools than ever before. The discipline in Ombaci during the times of Okuni is no more. Banduga From: jadribo victor <jadri...@yahoo.com> To: WestNileNet@kym.net Sent: Wed, 10 February, 2010 16:04:35 Subject: [WestNileNet] Is Public University in West Nile an Urgency Dear Comrades in the struggle for a brighter future for West Nile, on the current subject matter for digestion, I beg to have some clarifications due to the nature we rhetorically submit either for, against or midway. “Is it a University for West Nile or Public University in West Nile ?”, If public University, will admission and Employment opportunities accrued to it be b as ed on Westnileness or worthiness? Will it operate on the standards of West Nile or National? With due respect for Mr. Caleb to say we should forget the issue of our Student’s not qualifying to join the university is like a heavy slap on the faces of the majority economically incapacitated West Nile. It’s like we are living in utopia. If I may as k; who h as ever built a house without foundation? Can there be a forest without trees? What will be the multiplier effect on the region if only some few academicians are employed and some few rich ones construct Hostels where as the Majority poor and the entire West Nile population portrayed incapable for government admission due to poor performance and economic disparity which makes them unable to afford private sponsorships? Is this not a selfish thinking for heavens sake if we first think of the few educated and the rich who are minority? In essence and according to Ugandan trends, poor performance in an examination is nothing but being substandard and dull however much you may dress it. There is need to have the University but its not a priority according to me compared to working on our education challenges. It’s like most of us are visitors to our own region, if I may as k again; Is the majority in the precious Arua Comprehensive Nursing School from West Nile ? What about NTC Muni, UCC Pakwach and other institutions of higher learning in the region. This tells me that having a Public University is not a priority at whatever c as e and will not do much if not nothing in changing the attitudes of the people. I pray that we need to broaden our horizons both in thinking and feeling and be on the ground. It is true that when we were in power we did nothing for ourselves, but I think this w as simply because we served the Nation to a diligent degree and even those from West Nile in positions of power and authority are seemly doing little since things are not really under their control. It’s therefore unfortunate in my view for us to use such words because I know what gymn as tics go on and around the politics of West Nile . I believe we are just mere victims of circumstance in the new Uganda when you see our brothers like Owen, Toko and Inziku behind bars for causing financial loss yet there are even those who have embezzled and mismanaged more than expected but since they have compliant names and are strategically positioned, they are not even shaken. Let us keep in the struggle but with focus and doing first things first. For God and West Nile . THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS EMAIL AND/OR ATTACHMENTS IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY BE PRIVILEGED. NEW VISION PRINTING & PUBLISHING COMPANY LTD MAKES NO WARRANTIES REGARDING THE INFORMATION HEREIN CONTAINED AND ACCEPTS NO LIABILITY FOR ANY LOSS, DAMAGE OR INJURY ARISING THEREFROM. UNINTENDED RECIPIENTS SHOULD DESTROY OR RETURN EMAIL TO SENDER AND DESIST FROM USE, DISTRIBUTION OR STORAGE. 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