*Excellent Public health initiative* Is there anyway to partner with Radio PACIS to air some of the outcome of these discussions? Dissemination of this vital information through Radio/TV is essential community outreach initiative to educate thousands who cannot attend the session in person. There is so much we can/could do to prevent death from some diseases.
Keep it up Christine, bravo On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:07 PM, <westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> wrote: > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > westnilenet@kym.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Science cafe brief (christine munduru) > 2. Re: Science cafe brief (Kiggundu Mukasa) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:39:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: christine munduru <cmund...@yahoo.com> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Science cafe brief > To: West Nile Arua <WestNileNet@kym.net> > Cc: Geofrey Toko <angutoko...@yahoo.com>, Ben Droti > <bdroti2...@yahoo.co.uk>, Patrice Mawa < > patrice.m...@mrcuganda.org> > Message-ID: <512005.83303...@web57405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear all, > In the last science cafe, members agreed that we write a brief of the > discussions and post to westnile net and also put the next topic for > discussion. > Unfortunately this was agreed after the cafe had ended so I will just write > what > I can remember. Next time we shall suggest a raportuer. > > The topic was intellectual property and access to medicines. This topic was > important becuase of the pending counterfeit goods bill in parliament that > has > defined counterfeit in broad terms to include generic medicines which > Uganda > depends on > > > ØDef: Intellectual property rights refers to a bundle of rights awarded by > society to individuals or organisations over creative works: inventions, > literary and artistic works and symbols, names, images, designs as a > bargain > that the outcomes of the rights will benefit society at large. > > Ø > ØIPRs generally can be categorised as follows: * Ø * Ø > * ØArtistic and Literary Property (cultural creations) * ØCopyright > Patents, > Industrial designs, Trademarks, Geographical Indications, Trade Secrets, > Geographical Indications > > Incase of patents, the individual is to have exclusive rights for 20 years > and > this is where medicines fall. > > Brand medicines Vs generic medicinesIndustrial Property (functional > commercial > innovations), > > Brand medicines are those that are produced by the people(scientists) who > innovated them and according to international laws, they patent such drugs > for > 20 years without anybody reproducing them and are allowed to sell them at > whichever price they want.e.g drugs from USA, UK Germany etc. > > But generic medicines are those which have been reproduced by people who > didnt > innovate them. They simply copy the formula and using the data of the > innovaters, reproduce exactly the same drug according to the same > international > law.e.g drugs from India and China. > > It is true we have counterfeit goods in Uganda but the aim of the pending > law is > to protect IPR which does not belong to Ugandans. This law will not adress > the > safety and quality issues instead will limit access to medicines. It will > also > limit access to knowledge materials, students will not be able to photocopy > text > books, farmers will not replant patent ed seeds etc. > > according to Trade Related Intellectual Property(TRIPS) agreement 1994, > counties were grouped into developed, developing and least developed like > Uganda. LDCs were to become TRIPs compliant in 2013 but incase of > pharmacuetilcals 2016. Developed countries were to become compliant as soon > as > the law is operational and developing were to be compliant by 2005. > But Uganda is being pushed to have TRIPs plus laws even before we become > TRIPS > compliant thru the counterfeit laws. > > Alot was shared in the discussion but cannot put them here. > members like Akile shared the work they are doing with our very own > scientists > in the biosafety committee. Jose shared his expertise on seeds as far as > hybrid > seeds are concerned and these were all useful to enrich our knowledge. > Okuti > Boroa also shared the gap he has noted between scientists and farmers > through > his work. And this is where cafe would come to close such by taking science > to > the community. > > Members then realized that Uganda is signing so many documents which will > become > a big problem to us in future but as a country we are not well positined to > bargain for good laws at international level. > However, at domestic level we should try to make good domestic laws. But > the > challenge noted was also the free trade agreements Adovcacy was proposed > as a > way forward but the problem again is lack of such information to the right > people. > Another challenge was also the fact that our country does not invest in > research > to support our briliant scientists to do their own research such that they > can > patent their own products. > > > As a wayforward, members acknowledged that cafe would be a good way to > enrich us > and also come up with some solutions to our own life problems. They asked > that > we post key issues discussed here and make sure this continues once a > month. > > > The next topic was selected as life style diseases like blood presure, > diabetes > and heart diseases. The facilitator was proposed to be our own Dr. Worodria > William. Patrice Mawa was to talk to him first for his availability. > > > Our brother Matenga was then asked to move a vote of thanks to the > facilitator > and the discussion went informal. > > Thanks > > Christine > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100908/6ab7e683/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:05:58 +0300 > From: Kiggundu Mukasa <kiggu...@kym.net> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Science cafe brief > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > Cc: Geofrey Toko <angutoko...@yahoo.com>, Ben Droti > <bdroti2...@yahoo.co.uk>, Patrice Mawa < > patrice.m...@mrcuganda.org> > Message-ID: <f0079d88-b2c4-4ccc-892d-5e03e4b40...@kym.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Add gout to the lifestyle diseases > > > Kiggs > > On Sep 8, 2010, at 7:39 PM, christine munduru wrote: > > > Dear all, > > In the last science cafe, members agreed that we write a brief of the > discussions and post to westnile net and also put the next topic for > discussion. Unfortunately this was agreed after the cafe had ended so I will > just write what I can remember. Next time we shall suggest a raportuer. > > > > The topic was intellectual property and access to medicines. This topic > was important becuase of the pending counterfeit goods bill in parliament > that has defined counterfeit in broad terms to include generic medicines > which Uganda depends on > > > > > > ØDef: Intellectual property rights refers to a bundle of rights awarded > by society to individuals or organisations over creative works: inventions, > literary and artistic works and symbols, names, images, designs as a bargain > that the outcomes of the rights will benefit society at large. > > Ø > > ØIPRs generally can be categorised as follows: > > ØIndustrial Property (functional commercial innovations), > > ØPatents, Industrial designs, Trademarks, Geographical Indications, Trade > Secrets, Geographical Indications > > ØArtistic and Literary Property (cultural creations) > > ØCopyright > > Incase of patents, the individual is to have exclusive rights for 20 > years and this is where medicines fall. > > > > > > Brand medicines Vs generic medicines > > > > Brand medicines are those that are produced by the people(scientists) who > innovated them and according to international laws, they patent such drugs > for 20 years without anybody reproducing them and are allowed to sell them > at whichever price they want.e.g drugs from USA, UK Germany etc. > > > > But generic medicines are those which have been reproduced by people who > didnt innovate them. They simply copy the formula and using the data of the > innovaters, reproduce exactly the same drug according to the same > international law.e.g drugs from India and China. > > > > It is true we have counterfeit goods in Uganda but the aim of the pending > law is to protect IPR which does not belong to Ugandans. This law will not > adress the safety and quality issues instead will limit access to medicines. > It will also limit access to knowledge materials, students will not be able > to photocopy text books, farmers will not replant patent ed seeds etc. > > > > according to Trade Related Intellectual Property(TRIPS) agreement 1994, > counties were grouped into developed, developing and least developed like > Uganda. LDCs were to become TRIPs compliant in 2013 but incase of > pharmacuetilcals 2016. Developed countries were to become compliant as soon > as the law is operational and developing were to be compliant by 2005. > > But Uganda is being pushed to have TRIPs plus laws even before we become > TRIPS compliant thru the counterfeit laws. > > > > Alot was shared in the discussion but cannot put them here. > > members like Akile shared the work they are doing with our very own > scientists in the biosafety committee. Jose shared his expertise on seeds as > far as hybrid seeds are concerned and these were all useful to enrich our > knowledge. Okuti Boroa also shared the gap he has noted between scientists > and farmers through his work. And this is where cafe would come to close > such by taking science to the community. > > > > Members then realized that Uganda is signing so many documents which will > become a big problem to us in future but as a country we are not well > positined to bargain for good laws at international level. > > However, at domestic level we should try to make good domestic laws. But > the challenge noted was also the free trade agreements Adovcacy was > proposed as a way forward but the problem again is lack of such information > to the right people. > > Another challenge was also the fact that our country does not invest in > research to support our briliant scientists to do their own research such > that they can patent their own products. > > > > > > As a wayforward, members acknowledged that cafe would be a good way to > enrich us and also come up with some solutions to our own life problems. > They asked that we post key issues discussed here and make sure this > continues once a month. > > > > The next topic was selected as life style diseases like blood presure, > diabetes and heart diseases. The facilitator was proposed to be our own Dr. > Worodria William. Patrice Mawa was to talk to him first for his > availability. > > > > Our brother Matenga was then asked to move a vote of thanks to the > facilitator and the discussion went informal. > > > > Thanks > > > > Christine > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > WestNileNet@kym.net > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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