*Cynical Business Practice* What is the standard practise of providing power a crosss uganda? Is it that the customers provide their own poles and meter box for electricity or water? Who owns these equipment?
I may be on the dark part of world where utility companies are in the business of providing services to customers. They provide poles and meter for water or electricity. The customers pay for a monthly access fee. Each utility company brings power or water right to the wall of a home(s). By the time a new home is ready for occupation, these things are ready for use. Why do we allow the Utility companies operating in Uganda to charge for poles for electricity or pipes for bringing water to a home? What if all customers wired their homes with solar pannels and dug their own bore holes? How would these utility companies make their money? I really think there is something so absurd about the business practice whereby utility companies charge customers for poles or water pipes. Would they not be happy to have many customers rather than a few handful who can afford to provide their own equipment? What will happen if new customers refuse to buy poles or water pipes? Who looses in the business world? JJavudria On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 3:38 AM, <westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> wrote: > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > westnilenet@kym.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Electricity Poles (Robert Ejiku) > 2. Re: Electricity Poles (banduga ismail) > 3. Re: Electricity Poles (George Afi Obitre-Gama) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:13:14 +0300 > From: Robert Ejiku <ejikurob...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > Message-ID: > > <aanlktinb7rnsodafoctuhg2c+zxpj7tezzyzsdmvq...@mail.gmail.com<aanlktinb7rnsodafoctuhg2c%2bzxpj7tezzyzsdmvq...@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > We are subsidizing Wenreco and condoning their inefficiency by buying these > expensive poles. > > Atleast this is what it seems like. These claims of transport being very > high for the poles is flimsy. No one has actually come out to defend these > obscene charges and managed t convince me. > > I think this would be something to spend time on. > > > > Ejiku > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Patrick Anguti <pangu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Ismail thanks for that update. Can u find out how much it will cost if a > > private firm or individual is engaged? It seems Wenreco is doing this to > > discourage people from purchasing the poles. > > All we want to do is buy our poles and then engage them instead of those > > private individuals or firms. > > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk > >wrote: > > > >> Dear All, > >> > >> I have just talked to a staff (one of the team leaders) of Wenreco in > >> Arua about this. According to him, if one obtains poles privately, then > you > >> will need to engage a private individual or firm to fix the poles and > run > >> the line (wires). However, this private firm or individual needs to do > this > >> with the full knowledge of Wenreco i.e. fill in some forms at Wenreco > >> offices. Wenreco will then come to connect your premises to the power > line > >> at a cost of 246,400 UGX. This cost is basically the cost of the meter > box. > >> > >> He also says there is the power extension plan that they are currently > >> working on to extent power to many areas in and around Arua. In this > plan, > >> Wenreco will run the main lines and individuals will then meet the cost > of > >> connecting the premises to the main lines. This will still require > >> individuals to pay for poles depending on how far or near your premises > is > >> from the main line. > >> > >> As Ejiku asked, yes it is a practice Wenreco reluctantly seems to allow. > >> > >> Ismail > >> -------------------------------------------- > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> *r From:* Patrick Anguti <pangu...@gmail.com> > >> *To:* westnilenet@kym.net > >> *Sent:* Wed, 15 September, 2010 19:03:56 > >> *Subject:* [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> As u r all aware, the price Wenreco charges for poles is extremely high > as > >> compared to the rate at which the poles are sold. > >> Aware of this, am suggesting we come as a group, purchase the poles, > >> transport them to Arua and then we get services from Wenreco for > installing > >> them. > >> > >> The current market price for distribution poles is 150$. If somebody in > >> Arua can get us the installation cost the better. > >> > >> -- > >> Patrick Anguti > >> Forest Officer > >> Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited > >> P O Box 7390, kampala > >> Tel: +256-312-330300 > >> Fax: +256-414-255600 > >> Mob: +256-772-929633 > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WestNileNet mailing list > >> WestNileNet@kym.net > >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > >> > >> WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> All Archives can be found at > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > >> > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >> attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Patrick Anguti > > Forest Officer > > Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited > > P O Box 7390, kampala > > Tel: +256-312-330300 > > Fax: +256-414-255600 > > Mob: +256-772-929633 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > WestNileNet@kym.net > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > -- > Ejiku Robert, > Group Manager, > Igara Growers Tea Factory Ltd, > P.O. Box 110, Bushenyi > Office Tel:+256-772-700-797, > Mobile:+256-772-522-619, +256-702-522-619 > Office e-mail: ig...@iwayafrica.com, > Personal e-mail: ejikurob...@gmail.com. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100916/360bedc8/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:31:39 +0000 (GMT) > From: banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > Message-ID: <631779.2159...@web29717.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Two weeks ago, Wenreco concluded what they called the final assessment. In > this > assessment, they moved to all the different parts of the urban and > semi-urban > centers, marking the points where the poles would fit, using GPS > coordinates. By > this, they were establishing how the lines would run, how many poles would > be > needed, meters of wires, number of transformers and where the transformers > would > be installed. This is the field stage I know of so far. > > As for the cost of private firms, I will find out from one or two of them. > > Ismail > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Robert Ejiku <ejikurob...@gmail.com> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > Sent: Thu, 16 September, 2010 9:08:03 > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > Banduga, > > This is useful information because the impression I got from Arua the last > time > (not long ago) I was there was that WENRECO would make you pay twice for > the > poles if you privately arranged it. > > Now this is getting somewhere. I think that plan of running the main lines > to > different parts of the urban and semi-urban centres would be a welcome > idea. At > what stage is this? > > > Thank you. > > > > Ejiku > > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM, banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > > Dear All, > > > >I have just talked to a staff (one of the team leaders) of Wenreco in > Arua about > >this. According to him, if one obtains poles privately, then you will need > to > >engage a private individual or firm to fix the poles and run the line > (wires). > >However, this private firm or individual needs to do this with the full > >knowledge of Wenreco i.e. fill in some forms at Wenreco offices. Wenreco > will > >then come to connect your premises to the power line at a cost of 246,400 > UGX. > >This cost is basically the cost of the meter box. > > > >He also says there is the power extension plan that they are currently > working > >on to extent power to many areas in and around Arua. In this plan, Wenreco > will > >run the main lines and individuals will then meet the cost of connecting > the > >premises to the main lines. This will still require individuals to pay for > poles > >depending on how far or near your premises is from the main line. > > > >As Ejiku asked, yes it is a practice Wenreco reluctantly seems to allow. > > > >Ismail > >-------------------------------------------- > > > > > ________________________________ > r From: Patrick Anguti <pangu...@gmail.com> > >To: westnilenet@kym.net > >Sent: Wed, 15 September, 2010 19:03:56 > >Subject: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > > > > >Dear all, > > > >As u r all aware, the price Wenreco charges for poles is extremely high as > >compared to the rate at which the poles are sold. > >Aware of this, am suggesting we come as a group, purchase the poles, > transport > >them to Arua and then we get services from Wenreco for installing them. > > > >The current market price for distribution poles is 150$. If somebody in > Arua can > >get us the installation cost the better. > > > >-- > > > >Patrick Anguti > >Forest Officer > >Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited > >P O Box 7390, kampala > >Tel: +256-312-330300 > >Fax: +256-414-255600 > >Mob: +256-772-929633 > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >WestNileNet mailing list > >WestNileNet@kym.net > >http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > >WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > >All Archives can be found at > http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > > >The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > -- > Ejiku Robert, > Group Manager, > Igara Growers Tea Factory Ltd, > P.O. Box 110, Bushenyi > Office Tel:+256-772-700-797, > Mobile:+256-772-522-619, +256-702-522-619 > Office e-mail: ig...@iwayafrica.com, > Personal e-mail: ejikurob...@gmail.com. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100916/f72914fe/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:37:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: George Afi Obitre-Gama <gobi...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > Message-ID: <672869.16869...@web43132.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > All, > > I think this is quite misleading. Yes, you can individually acquire the > poles > and run the wires but at what cost? The poles to be acquired must be of a > certain minimum standard with the correct specifications i.e they must be > well > treated using both copper sulphate immersion and creosote treatment. I know > only > one treatment plant in Kampala. Secondly, the wires(read cables) must be of > a > certain minimum standard too - i.e the type of material, diameter etc. All > these > must be got from Kampala and are quite costly - may be importation from > India > may be cheaper! Transportation logistics of these items to West Nile is > also > another expensive affair. All in all, its a costly affair! Thats why we > have to > ask the government to come in by way of provision of subsidies etc. > Otherwise, > if you are Mike Ezra, its possible. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk> > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 8:40:44 AM > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > > Dear All, > > I have just talked to a staff (one of the team leaders) of Wenreco in > Arua about > this. According to him, if one obtains poles privately, then you will need > to > engage a private individual or firm to fix the poles and run the line > (wires). > However, this private firm or individual needs to do this with the full > knowledge of Wenreco i.e. fill in some forms at Wenreco offices. Wenreco > will > then come to connect your premises to the power line at a cost of 246,400 > UGX. > This cost is basically the cost of the meter box. > > He also says there is the power extension plan that they are currently > working > on to extent power to many areas in and around Arua. In this plan, Wenreco > will > run the main lines and individuals will then meet the cost of connecting > the > premises to the main lines. This will still require individuals to pay for > poles > depending on how far or near your premises is from the main line. > > As Ejiku asked, yes it is a practice Wenreco reluctantly seems to allow. > > Ismail > -------------------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ > r From: Patrick Anguti <pangu...@gmail.com> > To: westnilenet@kym.net > Sent: Wed, 15 September, 2010 19:03:56 > Subject: [WestNileNet] Electricity Poles > > > Dear all, > > As u r all aware, the price Wenreco charges for poles is extremely high as > compared to the rate at which the poles are sold. > Aware of this, am suggesting we come as a group, purchase the poles, > transport > them to Arua and then we get services from Wenreco for installing them. > > The current market price for distribution poles is 150$. If somebody in > Arua can > get us the installation cost the better. > > -- > > Patrick Anguti > Forest Officer > Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited > P O Box 7390, kampala > Tel: +256-312-330300 > Fax: +256-414-255600 > Mob: +256-772-929633 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100916/fd162047/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 35 > ******************************************* >
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