Sam, Thank you for the insightful thinking. I think all we should strive to do as you correctly articulated is prevent more of us getting traped in this kind of thing. I can tell you that many people seem to be getting lured into this. My sister and Driwaru were arrested on 11th March 2008. In May the same year, Habiba and Drani were arrested and around July, Bako was. To the best of my knowledge, these people got recruited in Kampala through some agents. The real achitects are not easy to come by. Yes those already caught up should be able to give us more information.
Ismail Banduga ---------------------------- ________________________________ From: Ejibua Sam <eji...@yahoo.com> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> Sent: Thu, 30 September, 2010 11:43:44 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 Dear all, While I may agree with those who say we should not condone crime and especially drug and substance abuse, I would like to divert from the blame game to a more practical avenue of dealing with the issue at hand. I am no achitect for the legal battle Mr. Banduga is seeking knowledge of, but a few questions that can help us avoid a similar re-occurence: Who recruited these sisters and brothers languishing in China prisons and from where (Kampala or from Arua)? In answering this question, especially with information obtained from those already under Chinese custody (Most likely from Bandugas contacts), we would be able to help those in the pipeline and trace the activities of the drug dealers (Not necessarily to reprimand) but to provide information for the young men and women who are potential victims. I know that many young men and women are lured into the trade because of the lucrative nature of the business but it is also known world over, money made from drugs is easy money but has grave consequences when missions bounce. We wouldnt want more Dranis, Driwarus and Bakos in a similar situation again. I pass this ball back to Banduga for clarifications while the legal minds sought out the rest. Sam On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Joel Arike <jlar...@aol.com> wrote: Dear all, >I do not see the importance of rescuing people involved for substance abuse >while we fighting against substance abuse (drugs). Some of us are >knowledgeable >of good number of Ugandans who are currently involved to drugs business in >Spain >but that is an act of international criminal practice. believe very soon >Uganda >air port will soon one day seeing international plains landing their from >South >America. >Arike > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: JohnAJackson <javud...@gmail.com> >To: westnilenet <westnilenet@kym.net> >Sent: Wed, Sep 29, 2010 9:05 am >Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 25, Issue 81 > > >Foreign Business & Transections > >Dear friends brothers and sisters, > >There was a post by Banduga Ismail regarding some West Nilers arrested in >China >on drug charges. "what can we do for these people" > >First of all, we should encourage and educate people who want do business >to engage in legitimate business and acquire all necessary licenses. If some >individuals decide to invlove themsleves in criminal activities overseas, how >do >we expect this community to help them, where do we start? Do we really want >to >condone or promote criminal activities? I think this issue is beyond the >scope >and purpose of WNF. Who does not understand drug trafficking is a violation >of >International Law? The sentence ranges from 14-15 years depending on the >country. People who want to apply "Get Rich Quick Idealogy" should be held >responsible for their own weakness. Criminal activity is unacceptable, should >not be tolerated on this forum, period. > >It's very important that people who want to do International Business must >undersnad the laws and regulations in the foreign countries where they want to >operate. > >I rest my case. > >JJAvudria > > >On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:00 AM, <westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> wrote: > >Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to >> westnile...@kym.net >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet >>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> westnilenet-requ...@kym.net >> >>You can reach the person managing the list at >> westnilenet-ow...@kym.net >> >>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Our brothers and sisters in Jails in China (banduga ismail) >> 2. Re: Guidelines for Organising Community Events (Ejibua Sam) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:30:17 +0000 (GMT) >>From: banduga ismail <bani...@yahoo.co.uk> >>Subject: [WestNileNet] Our brothers and sisters in Jails in China >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> >>Message-ID: <796694.73097...@web29715.mail.ird.yahoo.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Dear WNF, >> >>I want to believe that we are all aware that some of our brothers and sisters >>are serving jail sentences in China, Iran and India. And this category are >>serving jail sentences (sentences passed without legal representation) ranging >>from 15 years to life imprisonment for the offence of possessing narcotic >drugs. >>I have some information about the caseload in China because one of them is my >>sister and I periodically talk to her and the embassy. Some are in Beijin city >>(Doka Zaitun, Driwaru Florence, Norah Dezu) while others are in Ghounzhou city >>(Habiba Musa, Bako Lucy, Drani Charles). I have received some letters from my >>sister and her friends (all inmates) that are a little disturbing. All these >>people are used by drug dealers who are here in Kampala but have consealed >their >>identities. >> >>Some few months ago, many of you might have seen, the media houses ran articles >>about Ugandans serving jail sentences in china. In the article, according to >the >>ambassador, there were 54 ugandans in jails in china and 35 of whom are ladies >>in their early to mid thirties. >> >>I thought this is an issue worth sharing on this forum and we see if there is >>anything we can do for our brothers and sisters, from a legal persepcetive or >>advocacy perspective. I can understand that a crime is a crime and depending on >>the territory where it is committed, the punishments may vary. As we know, >china >>is rather a difficult country and her human rights rating is worrying. >> >>Ismail >>-------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >>-------------- next part -------------- >>An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>URL: >>http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/westnilenet/attachments/20100929/9318d9ad/attachment-0001.html >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Message: 2 >>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:38:42 +0300 >>From: Ejibua Sam <eji...@yahoo.com> >>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >>To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <westnilenet@kym.net> >>Message-ID: >> <aanlktimqnox8bprzhkpd-wj_mpdyuazdpylyj9n9_...@mail.gmail.com> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >>Thanks members, >> >>I will incorporate any new ideas and present them for the consideration of >>the rest. Lets keep strengthening the cooperation and coordination efforts >>to the benefit of all. >> >>On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM, alaka caleb <calebal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sam Ejibua and group, we are proud of the work of this committee. >>> members should take it seriously. We are taking the right direction >>> cheers ladies and gentlemen >>> >>> On 9/28/10, adii...@mtn.co.ug <adii...@mtn.co.ug> wrote: >>> > Dear All, >>> > >>> > Thanks for putting up this piece of directional focus together. This was >>> a >>> > great stuff. >>> > >>> > Best Regards >>> > >>> > >>> > Patrick >>> > >>> > From: Charles Dra-ecabo [mailto:draec...@hotmail.com] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:06 AM >>> > To: West Nile >>> > Cc: Patrick Okuni; william.al...@postbank.co.ug >>> > Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >>> > >>> > Dear Sam, >>> > >>> > Thanks to the team for the good work. I like the idea of the social >>> events >>> > being specific. I believe similar guidelines will also be put in place >>> for >>> > other activities/events of the WNF. >>> > Just one little thing. Did the team discuss eligibility. For now it may >>> not >>> > be an issue, but it may arise when there are conflicting date of events >>> > involving an active member(one who has been participating in all events) >>> and >>> > a passive one who emerges from no where and would like to be supported. >>> Just >>> > something to think about. >>> > >>> > Kind Regards, >>> > >>> > Charles >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:32:02 -0700 >>> > From: eji...@yahoo.com >>> > To: westnilenet@kym.net >>> > CC: pok...@yahoo.com; rang...@newvision.co.ug; >>> william.al...@postbank.co.ug >>> > Subject: [WestNileNet] Guidelines for Organising Community Events >>> > Dear all, >>> > >>> > Attached are guidelines as discussed and adopted by a committee >>> constituted >>> > to support coordination and planning of events within the framework of >>> WNF. >>> > A copy will be placed at Naalya and other such places for members to read >>> > and acquint themselves with. 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