Dear Members, We are now talking and happening! The idea of investment club is super and I thank the initiators.If this idea is managed well, we shall only blame government for not creating conducive economic atmosphere but not poverty.This is the way to go and urge interested members to take it of great importance and use the free of charge said professional service to be provided by our own, Dennis. For long , we are struggling financially because we work for money but not money working for us. We donot plan for our retirement and only handover intergenerational poverty to our children because what we eat is what we get, no substantial investments.
Our economy is currently peaking as well investment opportunities are skyrocking too, if not utilised,with the east african community, kenyans will sweep all the opportunies as they are aware and knowlegeable of them.Here in UK, where am currently pursing my Masters in Financial Economics and Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) candidate , such initiatives are the talk on streets. I appreciate that our financial sector is still crawling,but the existing opportunites are worth investing in. Past are the days of investing in goats and animals. We must utilise the spill over effects of our liberalised economy and work collectlively to enjoy eminent economies of scale other than acting in isolation. I regret my absence on this decisive day but thank the members we were present for reasoning out a such fantastic idea. Dennis take on. Back to you,WNFIC Etrima Sunday olishe University of Exeter Business school, Streatham. Garden Hill House, Hoopern Lane, Exeter,EX4 4SQ United Kingdom (UK) Mob: +447466823257 [email protected] [email protected] ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 5:02:10 PM Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 29, Issue 118 Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: The Science Cafe Becomes of Age (Okuti Boroa) 2. Re: Concerned! (Ezama Ruffino) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:08:47 +0300 From: "Okuti Boroa" <[email protected]> To: "'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] The Science Cafe Becomes of Age Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Acidri & Ejubua Misters, I will follow up with those compiling and see that you get the proceedings. Members Mr. Denis Aliga has been so kind to us and said if we want to learn more and inform him appropriately, there is a lot more he can share. All I am saying it is not all lost for those who missed, actually the presentation made was toned down a lot. Regards Richard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ejibua Sam Sent: 24 January 2011 18:31 To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] The Science Cafe Becomes of Age Richard, I can see that those of us who were unable to attend missed alot during the science cafe, but all the same thanks alot for the initiative and pace well set. Congratulations to the team, looking forward for the documented presentation. Sam On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Okuti Boroa <[email protected]> wrote: Dear all, We held yet another successful Science Cafe, the best attended and the first for 2011 also a cafe which resulted into a resolution! Imagine each cafe churning out a resolution, how far would we have gone... Anyway there is a saying that there is a beginning for everything. Discussions focused on collective funds, the power of collaboration to provide a means to an end, making it easier for us to think about bigger things share bigger actionable dreams, this is what we were discussing. Our own with vast experience Mr. Denis Aliga & Mr. Jeffrey Onegi-Obel explained to us how we have to shine together otherwise the days of lone stars are long gone! The President WNF could not hide his excitement for this new revelation, Ms. Munduru too was so happy to veer into new territory. A lesson we all learned is to focus more on innovation of ideas and getting down to action when still hot, otherwise we face the risk of them being watered down by "Analysis by paralysis" a common management problem. Many are aware of this one "Boss I have a good idea" then the boss says "Please write a contemporary concept note and professional proposals giving various scenarios/possibilities of boosting the business - then call a meeting next quarter so that we can discuss your idea ". We learned that we have to be enterprising in times when little is done by governments but more is expected of the private sector system. For our members who could not make it, there were videos and pictures taken we shall see how best to present these documentations online, we shall also circulate the presentation made as soon as possible. An interim team was set up to quickly put in place a club and engage a fund manager and Mr. Aliga offered free technical support to get this project off the ground. Next time we should be able to resolve on how to intervene on Agriculture, Land Degradation, Decline in Education standards etc etc - A big thanks to all participants, contributors and all members. Lastly lets extend a big thank you to Joseph Dramadri for hosting the Science cafe at his famous club in Naalya. Kind regards Richard -- "Website & e-Solutions, Networks, Marketing Communications" Blog: http://asili4u.wordpress.com <http://asili4u.wordpress.com/> Tel +256 312 294857/1 and Mobile +256 772 725252 (Uganda) -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.mailscanner.info/> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ WestNileNet mailing list [email protected] http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. _______________________________________________ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.mailscanner.info/> MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20110124/8bc9eead/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:01:33 -0500 From: Ezama Ruffino <[email protected]> To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Concerned! Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Wnnie Thanks for raising this point on speed governors. Last year in october some members expressed concern which I want to read together with you. The highlighted expressions are done by me to see points raised and need our attention: On October 26, 2010 our brother Jimmy Awuzu had this to share: Dear all, Can someone please remind me of what happened to *Speed** Governors*? They seem to have faded out of the Police/Transport Licensing Board vocabulary. In some of our neighboring countries, long distance Busses *have two drivers and the co-driver takes over after some hours into the journey*. Is it too expensive for our Bus operators to implement the same? It is a fact that the *consumption of intoxicating drugs* like Mairungi, Quat, Goro, Bhang, Weed, Sniff (They come in different names and guises) affect decision making and concentration hours after taking/administering it *and it is common knowledge and practice that our drivers do partake of these in varying amounts and degrees.* Can I suggest that those of us who have good relationship with these service providers to prevail on them to vet their drivers for drug use? And finally, *there are now private companies that do undertake Health and Safety training* for various sectors of our economy, and also *Defensive driving*. Time to bring these measures aboard. God bless us all as we travel. On the same day our sister Gen Munduru (a day after she joined WNN had this to share: 1 *- The speed governors are only useful if we are sure that the people concerned will put them into full & good use*. I recall that during the time when they were first put in place, if the traffic policeman checked & saw it in place, the driver would be clean......needless to say that *some of these speed governors were just in place & not even working*, & knowing that they were mainly products from countries like Japan, China i can't be sure of the quality. 2 - Is it too expensive for bus operators to *have two drivers on long distance routes*? This is relative......From a financial point of view, no. Two drivers simply means the same pay but divided by two per head. But tell me which Ugandan bus driver is gonna accept half what he usually earns just because his employer is "too cowardly" to take a chance on that very low probability that the bus will arrive safely at the destination. Then seen in another light, *there is nothing, no amount of money that can replace a human life, let alone 20 lives (we may have stopped counting by now since the accidents are so often & the victims so many...).* So the word *"compensation" should not even be part of our vocabulary!* If only our people were more open-minded & realised *that investing in a good/reliable means of transport + recruiting as many drivers as it takes to ensure safe journeys to the travellers is a more lucrative investment than having to pay fines for corpses then we'd be on the right road.* As long as we *remain in that shadow, looking for short-lived solutions we're just marking time!* 3 - Then I also noticed that many comments are suggesting*, "if any of you know some people......" Let's not lie to ourselves, In Uganda to get places you need to "know people", but for how long?* All these issues boil down to the kind of political situation our country is in. *We have laws that are not respected, we have laws that apparently any Tom, Dick & Harry can bend to his convenience,* so is it really a shock that we are where we are today? *We need a change in mentality, we need good governance, we need honest citizens who are ready to be upright and stand for what they believe in!* *We may pray as much as we want & I believe that prayer can move mountains but I think we have been sleeping for so long we need to wake up!* The our brother Caleb Alaka added his voice: I understand *the quality of speed governors imported were so poor that mere passage of a bus in water or rain would destroy the sensors of the Speed Governors.* That apart, the truth of the matter is that *most of these accidents are caused as a result of sheer human mistakes coupled with primitiveness.* The two leading *service providers do not cooperate*. For *instance if one dismisses an errant driver, the other gladly employs him even on better terms.* Each operator has a schedule of traveling, however as soon as these buses are on the road, a *primitive competition* *of who would reach first begins*. You find one bus from a 'competing' operator has stopped with a double indicator, the other one just overtakes without finding out why his colleague has stopped in the end the one overtaking rums into something. Any way we met the owners of the two leading operators and discussed with them some of these points. *One seems to appreciate the need for them to cooperate and iron out the meaningless competition but the other is still uncooperative*. But we shall continue to *press for the needed reforms*. Before thy day ended, our brother Emmanuel Odravu Matua said: Members of the WNF, whereas I add my voice to yours in extending our condolences to the grieved families of West Nile; I also would wish to *condemn the well observed carelessness on the part of the drivers, the primitive competition on the part of the proprietors in the strongest terms possible.* Members, though somewhat busy, I have followed the contributions you've made and I think *we are the voice of the voiceless and coming together under the umbrella of the forum gives us the collective mandate to seek the audience of whoever matters in issues affecting us as a community.* In this case we *are duty bound to find a lasting solution to this evil* which is constantly depriving us of the love, support and care of departed relatives, friends and inlaws. Bravo Alaka and others who already made efforts to dialogue with the concerned parties; I think we *should examine alternative approaches of causing the parties to consider life and service before the money* they seem to be over focusing on (basis of the primitive competition). Keep the *"fire burning"* a true symbol of mourning in West Nile. Are there any points to add to these to see that they are presented to the right authorities and we NEED CHANGE and more responsibility from those who serve passengers on the bus companies? r -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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