Dear all, sorry am coming late in the discussion and I dont know how much has been done already so please forgive me incase I am off but Milton I hear you, we like making noise here and when it comes to taking action, we chicken out, can we move this forward, I am personally in support of this and would want it moved forward. we all use this buses and we only live to thank the God after we have come out without any problem. Do we have people or a committee already doing this? we have media people here and we have our "big" people on this net, whether MPs, ministers, NRM,FDC call them or their agents, where are they and why are they quiet.Can they provide for us a direction? Leaders who dont respond to the needs of their people should stop using people only for votes. I remember being attacked here because I mentioned some of the weaknesses of some of our "big" people, to me it does not matter so long as one is not doing what is expected, he/she ceases to be big in my eyes. It would actually make some impact if this memo is signed by many people to show that we are concerned, today it is numbers that move the agenda not so much about how powerful the letter is, it is about how many votes or customers I will loose due to issues being raised in such a letter, some of us in advocacy would volunteer ideas. Milton can I have a copy of the memo, if at all you have
Christine On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:03 AM, anguyo milton <angu...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear All,I have written alot about this before in this forum and > discussed the topic with actions that can be taken and unfortunately we > always come in to write on these accidents post facto! Like I said the > issue lies entirely on bad management of these bus companies. > > As concerned stakeholders who use these services in one way or another let > us make our contribution and make our voice heard. Organizing ourselves is > quite easy,WestNile Digest is already one platform that we can effectively > use and everyone here can contribute.If nothing tangible comes out of this > forum in form of a memo/note to the bus operators within one week from > now,then we should all together stop lamenting about the accidents when we > ourselves cannot even initiate serious action.Everyone should post the > substantial analysis noting their root cause analysis of these accidents > and these will form the gist of the matter in our memo/note to the bus > operators. Any accident has a root cause,sometimes ranging from poor > management,negligence,oversight,mechanical failure,bad > judgement,training,recklessness,etc.My analysis of the Ugandan > transportation sector with particular reference to the Arua Kampala route > is generally bad management which has a cascading effecting through the > operations of the bus companies. I am sure we can have accurate statistics > from the Police on the causes of accidents. > > Through this memo/note we will have made our voice heard,a copy will be > sent to the Minister of Transport,Inspector General of Police and the > Speaker of Parliament who we shall ask to circulate it to all MPs in > Uganda.Hopefully it will influence them in making the laws more stringent. > The leadership in this forum shall be asked to deliver this to the bus > operators and the other agencies of government for action. > > Milton > > Aviation/Aerospace Safety > Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University > > > --- On *Thu, 5/17/12, westnilenet-requ...@kym.net < > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net>* wrote: > > > From: westnilenet-requ...@kym.net <westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> > Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 29 > To: westnilenet@kym.net > Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 6:54 PM > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-ow...@kym.net> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28 (JohnAJackson) > 2. Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28 (G. Phillip Drametu) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:49:57 -0500 > From: JohnAJackson > <javud...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=javud...@gmail.com> > > > To: > westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28 > Message-ID: > > <caaaqbe3gjf746axsok0j0bey+rc32yxy7ovhj-vpnp-3r+4...@mail.gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=4...@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My humble opinion is that people who use these buses daily for commuting > from W/N to Kampala should organize themselves and approach the bus > operators, voice their anger and frustration with these accidents. > > Why can't people on the ground organize BOYCOT of these buses for one > month? Let these people understand the business ramifications of neglecting > customer voices and concerns? > > What sort of business man/woman will not understand the value of customers > who have made these people what they are? If we do nothing, these > craziness, recklessness, over-speeding, killing passengers will continue. > We are always quick in blaming the government, why can we not take action > on simple matters like this? Do we need anyone to come and tell us this is > wrong and it has got to stop. > > If the bus operators and drivers value the life of their customers, THEY > MUST STOP THESE RECKLESS ACCIDENTS. > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:00 AM, > <westnilenet-requ...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net>> > wrote: > > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > > > westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-ow...@kym.net> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Accident again? (Ezama Ruffino) > > 2. Re: Accident again? (brian aleni) > > 3. Re: Accident again? (Patrick Aviku) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:42:10 -0400 > > From: Ezama Ruffino > > <ezama.ruff...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ezama.ruff...@gmail.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > Message-ID: > > <CAJ7r12ztZdvJPQdhrifNLUfMOdrOmoJUoT+tt7-tHr_86X_5= > w...@mail.gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=w...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Dear all > > > > This morning I woke up only to be greeted by the news online that there > has > > again been an accident between a KKT Bus and a Nile Coach Bus in the > park. > > Its so sad! > > > > What are the procedures for us to raise our concerns to reduce these > > accidents in such a way that what we identify as causes of these > accidents > > are resolved? > > > > Its not the first time we have raised concerns in this forum! > > > > My heartfelt condolences to the families that have lost the victim and > > those injured my prayers! > > > > Ruffino > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20120516/a0d7c764/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:27:53 -0700 (PDT) > > From: brian aleni > > <alenibr...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alenibr...@yahoo.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > Message-ID: > > > > <1337228873.85503.yahoomailclas...@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=1337228873.85503.yahoomailclas...@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > It's a pity.My condolences to the bereaved family. > > > > Aleni. > > > > --- > > ______________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20120516/d7a9f626/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:43:23 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Patrick Aviku > > <patrickav...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=patrickav...@yahoo.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > Message-ID: > > > > <1337229803.67671.yahoomail...@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=1337229803.67671.yahoomail...@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > May God give them the peace the world can not give and take away from > > them...RIP > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ezama Ruffino > > <ezama.ruff...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ezama.ruff...@gmail.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:42 PM > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > > > > > Dear all > > > > This morning I woke up only to be greeted by the news online that there > > has again been an accident between a KKT Bus and a Nile Coach Bus in the > > park. Its so sad! > > > > What are the procedures for us to raise our concerns to reduce these > > accidents in such a way that what we identify as causes of these > accidents > > are resolved? > > > > Its not the first time we have raised concerns in this forum! > > > > My heartfelt condolences to the families that have lost the victim and > > those injured my prayers! > > > > Ruffino > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > WestNileNet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net> > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. > > _______________________________________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20120516/044c02f6/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > WestNileNet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net> > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > > > End of WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28 > > ******************************************* > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20120517/73c68ad5/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:54:11 -0400 > From: "G. Phillip Drametu" > <phillipdram...@ymail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phillipdram...@ymail.com> > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > Cc: > "westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net>" > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 45, Issue 28 > Message-ID: > <5bc8d8bc-a1b2-415e-99b1-7df55fbfe...@ymail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=5bc8d8bc-a1b2-415e-99b1-7df55fbfe...@ymail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It is a little difficult to boycott these busses if they are the cheapest > means of moving from A to B for the average common man. > > The government should impose requirement of speed governors and regularly > inspect the busses for road worthiness. Unfortunately you can not enforce > rules when the grossly under paid cops have to take bribes to make ends > meet. > > There is also the problem with roads. If you saw the state of the road > between Luwero and Kuruma and the way traffic compete for little Tarmac > while avoiding the huge potholes, you can appreciate why the government is > mostly responsible (I know the road from karuma to Arua is great and > tempting for fast driving). > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-05-17, at 2:49 PM, JohnAJackson > <javud...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=javud...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > My humble opinion is that people who use these buses daily for > commuting from W/N to Kampala should organize themselves and approach the > bus operators, voice their anger and frustration with these accidents. > > > > Why can't people on the ground organize BOYCOT of these buses for one > month? Let these people understand the business ramifications of neglecting > customer voices and concerns? > > > > What sort of business man/woman will not understand the value of > customers who have made these people what they are? If we do nothing, these > craziness, recklessness, over-speeding, killing passengers will continue. > > We are always quick in blaming the government, why can we not take > action on simple matters like this? Do we need anyone to come and tell us > this is wrong and it has got to stop. > > > > If the bus operators and drivers value the life of their customers, THEY > MUST STOP THESE RECKLESS ACCIDENTS. > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:00 AM, > > <westnilenet-requ...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net>> > wrote: > > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > > > > westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-ow...@kym.net> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Accident again? (Ezama Ruffino) > > 2. Re: Accident again? (brian aleni) > > 3. Re: Accident again? (Patrick Aviku) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:42:10 -0400 > > From: Ezama Ruffino > > <ezama.ruff...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ezama.ruff...@gmail.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > Message-ID: > > <CAJ7r12ztZdvJPQdhrifNLUfMOdrOmoJUoT+tt7-tHr_86X_5= > w...@mail.gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=w...@mail.gmail.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Dear all > > > > This morning I woke up only to be greeted by the news online that there > has > > again been an accident between a KKT Bus and a Nile Coach Bus in the > park. > > Its so sad! > > > > What are the procedures for us to raise our concerns to reduce these > > accidents in such a way that what we identify as causes of these > accidents > > are resolved? > > > > Its not the first time we have raised concerns in this forum! > > > > My heartfelt condolences to the families that have lost the victim and > > those injured my prayers! > > > > Ruffino > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20120516/a0d7c764/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:27:53 -0700 (PDT) > > From: brian aleni > > <alenibr...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alenibr...@yahoo.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > Message-ID: > > > > <1337228873.85503.yahoomailclas...@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=1337228873.85503.yahoomailclas...@web126004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > It's a pity.My condolences to the bereaved family. > > > > Aleni. > > > > --- > > ______________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/private/westnilenet/attachments/20120516/d7a9f626/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 21:43:23 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Patrick Aviku > > <patrickav...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=patrickav...@yahoo.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > Message-ID: > > > > <1337229803.67671.yahoomail...@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=1337229803.67671.yahoomail...@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > May God give them the peace the world can not give and take away from > them...RIP > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ezama Ruffino > > <ezama.ruff...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ezama.ruff...@gmail.com> > > > > To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile > > <westnilenet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:42 PM > > Subject: [WestNileNet] Accident again? > > > > > > Dear all > > > > This morning I woke up only to be greeted by the news online that there > has again been an accident between a KKT Bus and a Nile Coach Bus in the > park. Its so sad! > > > > What are the procedures for us to raise our concerns to reduce these > accidents in such a way that what we identify as causes of these accidents > are resolved? > > > > Its not the first time we have raised concerns in this forum! > > > > My heartfelt condolences to the families that have lost the victim and > those injured my prayers! > > > > Ruffino > > _______________________________________________ > > WestNileNet mailing list > > WestNileNet@kym.net<http://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net> > > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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