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From: "Ian Hickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andrew Fedoniouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "WHAT WG List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Looking at menus in HTML5...
Do you have any examples of exisiting web applications that will benefit
significantly from having that flat puristic context menus?
Web applications widely have hacks for context menus today. For example,
Google Maps and Live Search maps have simple context menus. Today they
have to have non-native implementations that don't really work well and
that interfere with the browser's features.
So where this context menu feature request comes from?
It's a frequent request from Web app developers.
Do you have any links for them?
I believe that HTML5 goal is to provide more or less generic solution
that can serve as simple menus *and* cover the whole class of popup
elements and lightweight dialog needs.
Nope, that isn't the goal. We're aiming at 80% with the intent to keep the
basic language simple and approachable.
....
I would argue that what we have in the spec now solves a good 80% of all
needs for menus and tool bars. I don't think most people need pie menus,
application launchers, complex markup in menus, etc.
In any case I would like to know examples of existing web applications
that such non-styleable menus.
I gave two earlier; Google Docs and Spreadsheets is another. Context menus
that are "non-styleable" are used in almost all desktop applications, so
any Web analogue to desktop applications could well want to use one. We
frequently get requests for how to do this.
Question was: "Do you have any examples of exisiting web applications that
will benefit *significantly* from having that flat puristic context menus?"
Google Maps uses two types of context menus/panels:
http://www.terrainformatica.com/w3/gmap.jpg
So you say that if one of it will be implemented as <select type="menu">
then this will significantly improve quality of this application or solve
many problems. Sounds a bit artificial, isn't it?
And here is an example of menu used in Google Spreadsheet
http://www.terrainformatica.com/w3/gcalc.jpg
So you say that Google Spreadsheet will use that plain text
menus?
And where these 80% came from? If three applications you
provided will not benefit from proposed solution?
Andrew Fedoniouk.
http://terrainformatica.com
