Yes, one must ALWAYS remember NEVER to use words like "always" and "never" ... 
and "required" and "forbidden" and...
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From: Charles Iliya Krempeaux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 2008 October 14 15:57
To: WeBMartians
Cc: Ian Hickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [whatwg] Video : Slow motion, fast forward effects

Hello,

Note that I said "when it is available".

I'd strongly encourage Codec/Plugin developers to add support for it.  As I 
know you'll have a certain class of web developers
screaming for this feature.  (And you'll be able to create alot of "cool" stuff 
with it :-)  )

-- 
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
http://ChangeLog.ca/

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM, WeBMartians <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


        I agree that scrubbing requires non-1X audio. However, to require it is 
going to cause CoDec/PlugIn developers not just
headaches
        but maybe aneurisms as well.
        
        Interestingly enough, audio at varied play rates has the potential to 
retain tonality. Since the audio is encoded with
something
        like a Fourier transform, the data is "spectral" rather than "wave." 
The samples may be presented tonally-accurate even if
their
        duration is not 1:1.
        
        Nonetheless, you're going to be very unpopular if the word "required" 
starts showing up.
        
        Best!
        ________________________________
        
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles 
Iliya Krempeaux
        Sent: Tuesday, 2008 October 14 15:24
        To: Ian Hickson
        Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        
        Subject: Re: [whatwg] Video : Slow motion, fast forward effects
        
        
        Hello Ian,
        
        On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Ian Hickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        
        [...]
        
               On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
        
               >
               > This feature would be used to implement "scrubing".  Like what 
you see
               > in Non-Linear Editors... for making movies, etc.  (I.e., 
grabbing the
               > "position handle" of the player, and moving it forwards and 
backwards
               > through the video, and varying speeds, to find what you are 
looking
               > for.)
               >
               > In those types of applications, the audio is on.  And it is 
important
               > for usability, for the video editor to hear the sound.
        
        
               I agree that on the long term we would want to provide this, but 
I think
               that is something we should offer as a separate feature (e.g. a 
flag that
               decides whether reverse-playback audio is muted or not, 
defaulting to true
               for compatibility with today).
        
        If there's some way of turning this feature "on" (when it is 
available)... that would be sufficient for scrubbing AFAICT.
        --
        Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
        http://ChangeLog.ca/
        
        






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