On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:37:15 -0400, Bil Corry <b...@corry.biz> wrote:

Charles McCathieNevile wrote on 8/6/2009 2:24 PM:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:12:07 -0400, Manu Sporny
<mspo...@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

The test ensures that attributes originating in the markup of an HTML4
document are preserved by the HTML parser and are preserved in the DOM.
[...]
http://html5.digitalbazaar.com/tests/xmlns-attribute-test.html

We have verified that xmlns:-style attributes are preserved in the
following browsers:

Also works in the latest Opera 10 Beta 2 plus Unite snapshot.
Opera 10 - Opera/9.80 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X; U; en) Presto/2.2.15
Version/10.00

(yeah, the UA string is like that because important websites with
browser sniffing check version numbers, but only the first digit. I.e.
they can't count to ten yet).

The issue now is that websites that can't "count to ten" will not realize it because their site continues to function properly.

Well, they won't realise it through seeing their site break in Opera.

And for sites that can count to ten, well, you've broken them too.
My own sniffer reports version 9.80 for the above UA string whereas
if it was still in the "normal" Opera format, it would correctly
report version 10.00.

I'm glad you are smarter than the average bear, and I am sorry that we don't have a reward for that. But in practice, we are forced to decide whether it is better to catch the attention of web designers by making their site not work (with the incidental cost of catching the attention of users who discover that the site doesn't work), or by some other means.

Our experience suggests that the former is simply not effective - and this is one of the reasons WHAT-WG began - to deal with the Web in practice, and look for ways to improve HTML that didn't require browsers to suddenly stop working for reasons that, *to the user* are mystifying and cause them to blame the browser.

So yeah, this is clearly a sub-optimal situation and we want to change it. That alone won't make the change - which is why Opera pays people specifically to go around fixing web sites, code libraries, etc.

cheers

Chaals

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Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
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