On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Yuvalik Webdesign
<postmas...@yuvalik.org> wrote:
>> From: Tab Atkins Jr.
>>
>> Definitely not; it's part of the application.  From your snippet, the
>> page seems to be built as a picture-app, which means both the image
>> and the thumbnails work together; neither is tangential to the purpose
>> of the page like a sidebar would be.
>
> I think this is the core of the "problem". There is a large grey area where 
> design and development overlap. Most designers would most definitely *not* 
> call this an app, but I guess most developers would.
> The line between designer and developer is not clearly marked, there is 
> consensus on both side of the spectrum at the end, but the more you get 
> towards the middle, the less clear it becomes.
> Suppose the example I gave looks like this:
>
> <iframe src="example1_jpg.html" name="detail">
>
> <p>
> A long story regarding the companies' origins and goals...
> </p>
>
> <div id="advert">...</div>
>
> <ul>
>       <li><a target="detail" href="example1_jpg.html"><img 
> src="example1_thmb.jpg /></a></li>
>       <li><a target="detail" href="example2_jpg.html"><img 
> src="example2_thmb.jpg /></a></li>
>       <li><a target="detail" href="example3_jpg.html"><img 
> src="example3_thmb.jpg /></a></li>
>       <li><a target="detail" href="example4_jpg.html"><img 
> src="example4_thmb.jpg /></a></li> </ul>
>
> First of all, this example works more or less the same as the other one, 
> except this time there is no scripting, so could it technically still be 
> called an application?
> Secondly, it divides the detail-picture from the thumbnails with oodles of 
> non related content.
>
> Now, if this means the mark-up in this example should be different from the 
> previous example, this means the mark-up is therefore not JUST 
> semantic-related, and that would defy the main intent of HTML5 if I am not 
> mistaken?
>
> I hope I am making my point clear?

I don't think the markup should be any different.  The thumbnails
still appear to be part of the content.  The advert in the middle
should probably be an <aside>, though.  ^_^

~TJ

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