On Wed, 25 May 2016 23:56:09 +0100, Nils Dagsson Moskopp <n...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net> wrote:

Anne van Kesteren <ann...@annevk.nl> writes:

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Михаил Гаврилов
<mikhail.v.gavri...@gmail.com> wrote:
I propose to standardize locale settings (datetime,  number
delimeters) can be specified only by user via the operating system
settings. Sites should not change the locale that the user has chosen
for himself.

There is a proposal to do that at
https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/171 but it has not meaningfully
progressed thus far.

Note also that some sites go out of their way to localize form
controls to fit the language of the site. To the extent they will use
libraries rather than <input> and friends. Arguably they're wrong, but
there are cases where that does make sense. And let's not forget that
users often forget to set these settings properly, that's probably
part of the reason why sites do that kind of thing.

In my experience, the “users might have forgotten to set this, so we
default to something that is not what the user asked for and create a
better user experience” is something that is often invoked by developers
that do this stuff, but I have never seen data for/against the claim. Do
you have evidence for/against it improving user experience on web pages?

I don't *have* evidence I can share, but I have *seen* clear evidence that language settings for english in particular are seriously likely not to be representative of the people who have them.

Which is hearsay, of course. I would be very happy if someone can share clear evidence, but I'm prepared to accept the claim otherwise.

cheers

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