Exactly my point. When the turnaround time between request ->
build is counted in years you cannot go this route. If you guys want to
tighten control, be ready to provide very quick updates to users once
you agree to their changes (removing "final" modifiers, etc).Gili On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:29:18 +0100, Eelco Hillenius wrote: >Well, I am viewing this as both a framework builder and as a framework user. > >As a framework builder, yes I think it is a good thing to have things >under control. > >As a user, I benefit from a framework that is tight written because the >API will probably clearer and more consistent. However, I've cursed many >times on some of the JDK classes for being impossible to extend. And >hey, I got valid use cases (from my point of view), but no way those >private/ final stuff is out of there the next release. And I have heard >complaints from Johan in this respect as well (I think when he works on >http://www.servoy.com/). > >IMO it should be a nice mix, and Wicket is a bit tighter than I would >have build. But I'm probably just an idiot ;) > >Eelco > > >Jonathan Locke wrote: > >>it's interesting to generalize this whole viewpoint. the reason we make >>everything as private as possible is to encapsulate (this point leads to >>the whole getters-are-evil discussion because those expose details that >>might not need to be exposed). the reason we encapsulate is to reduce >>dependencies on implementation details. the reason we try to reduce >>dependencies is to /reduce our commitments to framework users/. >> >>in some sense, i think the whole point of OO programming is to control >>access. everything should be as final and as private as possible until a >>commitment to a wider access is /well understood/. people cannot write >>software that works in the first place. opening things up architecturally >>before extensibility is carefully managed is a recipe for an even bigger >>disaster. see windows! >> >>On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Eelco Hillenius wrote: >> >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------- >The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues >Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. >It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt >_______________________________________________ >Wicket-develop mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop > ------------------------------------------------------- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almost....http://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt _______________________________________________ Wicket-develop mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-develop
