Jonathan Carlson wrote:
Great for Martijn, Wicket *needs* articles written to help it gainthey may not have dug too far into the stateful nature of wicket. i think we have a really great long-term
exposure.
I praised Wicket on the Cayenne user list a few weeks ago and there was
a lot of initial interest but they focused in on the stateful nature of
wicket and seemed to sour on it... as if they were all writing ebay.com
sized apps or something. But then again, they already seemed pretty far
up the learning curve of Tapestry and probably didn't want to throw
their knowledge away. Maybe Cayenne needs a Wicket example like the
Tapestry example that Cayenne provides.
plan for state management. right now, you can make robust, stateful apps without having to do much manual
work at all. then you can tune them in terms of page state replication using the PageState hook in Page
and Session. in 1.1, we'll have client-side models and zero-state pages. you don't have to make everything
super hard or cryptic to make it efficient. and you don't want to optimize before you know what the problem is.
it's better to take a simple approach and then once you know what your performance issue is, take
appropriate measures to fix it. in the long run, wicket has a much better approach to the whole problem
of scalability, imo. people designing a web site for a few hundred or a few thousand users shouldn't
have to code like they were writing yahoo.com. and even a big site like yahoo.com might have quite a
few pages that aren't hot enough to bother tuning. why waste huge amounts of time dealing with state
issues that you don't really understand at the outset? instead, it's better to gradually scale the app as
you come to understand the nature of your problem...
If Wicket really is "a better mousetrap" as I think it is then people
will come flocking eventually... if there's enough exposure. But for
now, I like the small-town feel. :-)
yup. we're a pioneer town on the web framework frontier... or something...
No volunteering for a book here, though in an ideal world I'd have more time to work on stuff like that.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-04-07 2:41:13 PM >>>
Nope, though Martijn *is* very bussy writing articles. Volunteer?
Eelco
Jonathan (Carlson)
P.S. Who's writing the Wicket book? Anyone yet? :-)
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