Proxies and lazy collections became the default in 3.0.  

On 7/14/05, Phil Kulak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And that wasn't a problem with < 3.0? Hibernate has always used CGLib
> for proxying, and CGLib can't proxy anything final. I use field
> access, though. That way you don't have to worry about any of that
> because Hibernate will do bytecode manipulation. I've heard nice
> things about JDO, but I've been using the EJB3 annotations lately, and
> I think that's where it's at. Very nice.
> 
> On 7/14/05, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a side note: one thing that sucks about Hibernate now is the way they
> > do their proxying in 3.0 We have had a bunch of problems with it. Most
> > notably, you can't have final classes, as Hibernate can't create proxies
> > for them. If you do, you get exceptions. Worse, if you have final
> > getters and setters, Hibernate can't create proxy methods for them. But
> > Hibernate won't tell you! It took us (Maurice and I) many hours to
> > finally discover this.
> >
> > Just wanted to say that other frameworks like Cayenne and JDO (it's a
> > spec, okay) can still be viable alternatives.
> >
> > Eelco
> >
> >
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