My tapestry apps crashed as often as wicket apps, so def not a wicket bug.
Personally im against the serialization ids, it becomes too much of a pain
to maintain.

-Igor
 

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Phil Kulak
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Re: Wicket-user digest, Vol 1 #651 
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> You shouldn't need a serialization id unless you're jumping 
> between JVMs. As for the thread death and permgen memory 
> space. Yea, that's a bit more common with Wicket apps, but it 
> happens with everything in Tomcat. My Spring MVC project has 
> the same problems. Rumor has it it's a commons logging thing. 
> There's a lot of discussion about it over at Tomcat.
> 
> On 8/14/05, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Sorry Gili, I don't want to bash NetBeans here, but its 
> lack of SSH 
> > CVS  > support was a show stopper for me when I tried 4.1. Broken 
> > Maven support  > was another, but as I submitted a bug for 
> that quite 
> > some time ago, I  > expect that is fixed now. I'll check 
> out 4.2. soon.
> >  >
> >  > Eelco
> > 
> >         Netbeans 4.2 dev build has built-in SSH support. 
> Not sure when 
> > this was added, but I'm using it now and it works just 
> fine. And yeah, 
> > Netbeans isn't perfect but from a usability point of view, 
> I've fallen 
> > in love with it :) And for webapp development it is absolutely 
> > priceless (versus other IDEs).
> > 
> >         On a related note, I just filed bug #1259203 for 
> Wicket+Tomcat 
> > usability issues. Since Netbeans uses an internal Tomcat server for 
> > webapp development this is a very big deal (causes serious 
> > productivity losses). I also use Tomcat on my production 
> server so I'm 
> > quite happy that this is what is being used inside Netbeans 
> so I don't 
> > get any surprises when I deploy. I think a lot of these 
> issues should 
> > be simple to fix (i.e. add a serialization id to all the classes).
> > 
> > Gili
> > 
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