Ha! Your faq for mailing lists is funny. You say that if you introduce
discussion forums you'd spend all your time monitoring it and end up
having no time for actually working on Wicket. What are you doing now?
Right now you get around 70 new messages per day on the mailing list and
"new mail" notification poping up all the time :) This, versus having a
discussion forum where you can add email notification for specific
threads that interest you and ignore the rest. The one feature that *is*
missing from JForum (and I'm requesting it from the author now) is the
ability to watch for new posts on a forum. Once that's up, I think that
part of your FAQ becomes invalid.
And by the way, I highly doubt you'll ever find an email client that
has a better threading capability than forum software because the latter
is designed for threaded discussion in the first place. Anyway... if you
guys don't want to use the forums that's just fine but I don't think the
mailing list can continue this way forever. Right now I get around 70
new messages per day from wicket's lists and only reply to one or two of
them.
Gili
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
However, when I go to gmane, I don't do it through the web, but just
point my news reader to it. :-).
Just for completeness sake, and for new users wondering why we don't
like forums:
Our problems with forums and other communication platforms that we
currently have are outlined in this FAQ:
http://wicket.sourceforge.net/faqs.html#why-no-forums
The IRC channel is great for direct communication between several people
at once, without having to give out your
IM id. So we /definitely/ like the IRC thing, but can't spend too much
time on the channel. It distracts a lot of attention that
would otherwise be put into the framework. Design sessions etc. are
perfect for IRC, or for more direct communication
than possible through the mailinglist.
We'll create a faq/etc entry for the IRC channel with the next site update.
Martijn
On 9/14/05, *Gili* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
I can see why you guys hate using forums now :)
Gmane provides a read-only forum-like view of a mailing list
but its
interface is really ugly and you can't reply directly to posts or add
email notification for a specific discussion thread. I was thinking of
providing something similar to
http://www.desktopbeautifier.com/cayenne/forums/list.page
Gili
Eelco Hillenius wrote:
> But that's why we archive the discussions, like at gmain:
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.wicket.user. This view
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.wicket.user
<http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.wicket.user> is the same as any
> forum, right?
>
> Eeloc
>
> On 9/14/05, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>> That's fine. I'm trying to divert quick questions to IRC
to take the
>>load off the mailing list. Also I plan on putting up a discussion
forum
>>soon and just like the IRC channel you don't have to join or use
it but
>>I would appreciate a link to it.
>>
>> Mailing lists are good for some things, IRC for others
and forums for
>>yet others. I find that the good thing about (good) forum software is
>>that you can quickly see which questions have been answered and
which
>>have not. In mailing lists very often stuff falls between the cracks
>>because people can only focus on one or two conversations at a time.
>>
>> What we might need is a good mailing list <--> forum
synchronization
>>software.
>>
>>Gili
>>
>>Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>>
>>>Will do, but no guarantees that we will be there. The mailinglist
>>>alone is a 40 hour job ;-)
>>>
>>>Martijn
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/13/05, Gili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just a reminder, Wicket has an IRC support channel
#wicket at
>>>>irc.freenode.net <http://irc.freenode.net>
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please mention this on the Wicket website?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Gili
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