Johan Compagner schrieb:
but that is not client state.
That is serverside state. the unique id you are talking about is the page id.... pointing to a page instance.

So what is the point of having a client side state if you work that way. as far as i can see zero.

Hi Johan,

Thanks for your answer. I certainly understand wicket too little but I think:

You only store a page instance in the Session if the page makes an AJAX call - otherwise not. You evict the page-instance on the server when the AJAX-Page unloads. You also do not have to save version-data. For non AJAX-Pages anway. And for AJAX back-button support you serialize over the last state-change and the client sends the last change back when it intercepts the back-button (Does Wicket support the back-button with AJAX out of the box? would be cool.).

IMO in essence you need at most keep as many pages in the session as the maximum number of Browser-Windows you eccpect the user to have open at the same time. And than you have its full state including all the back button and multi windows.

Thanks,
Christian


On 4/30/06, *Christian Essl* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Matej Knopp schrieb:
    > Johan Compagner wrote:
    >> this is pretyt much all in place.
    >> I don't believe in a cookie and or url state what is that?
    storing a
    >> page in an url?
    >>
    >> We have a branch where we have a first draft of ClientSide Page
    >> saving (in an javascript variable that is then set in a hidden
    field
    >> of all the forms)
    > How will hidden field work with ajax? Will every response have to
    > carry the whole (new) page state?
    Sorry for this question from the gallery, but I am also intressted in
    client-side state with AJAX, albeit in another project.

    My assumption is that with AJAX you have the advantage that an
    AJAX call
    does not have the new-window or back-button problem. Requests
    generated
    by this 'problems' are never Ajax-Requests and if you handle the
    back-button with AJAX you will catch it in JavaScript anway and
    have an
    explicit event. IMO this makes things easier with AJAX and I
    thought you
    could use for regular requests client-side-state and for AJAX the
    Session.

    What I think of is that the first AJAX call will have to send the
    client-side-state, but than this state can be kept in the Session
    under
    some random unique-key. The first AJAX response than sends back the
    unique-key to the client which keeps it and all further AJAX requests
    than just transmit this unique-key back to the server (and not the
    full
    state, because this is kept in the Session). After the AJAX calls when
    the first regular request comes to the server the request is
    checked for
    the presence of a unique-key and if so the state transmitted by the
    request is dismissed and replaced by the one in the Session, which is
    than again send back to the client for client-side-state-keeping.  And
    the thing starts over.

    I think this way you can go to some extend around the AJAX ClientSide
    state problem.

    Would be great if you could share your thoughts about that.

    Thanks,
    Christian








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