Citát Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

hmm.. that sucks. I tested in in konqueror and it worked. As far as i know
safari uses khtml. I wonder where the problem is...

-matej

> hmmm can't use it
> We have to target that shitty mac (sorry guys ;) ) and it seems that the
> default browser
> safari doesn't work as far as i could test.
> 
> johan
> 
> 
> On 5/18/06, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The doctype is xhtml transitional. But there's an additional comment
> > (<!-- -->) before doctype to trick IE and make it work in quirks mode.
> > (Because in standard compliance mode IE uses the W3C box model, which
> > sucks).
> > This should work with strict too. Also <?xml header would do this, but
> > wicket is kind of reluctant to print it, so i just put comment there).
> >
> > So far, this setup works (tested) for Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, IE5.0+.
> > Only thing i'm not sure with is IE7. If it won't be fooled by comment
> > before doctype and won't allow to set box-sizing in standard compliance
> > mode there will be a problem. I hope MS engineers are sane enough to
> > implement box-sizing css property, which is currently supported by any
> > decend browser (except for IE of course).
> >
> > -Matej
> >
> >
> > Johan Compagner wrote:
> > > So you are saying that it is possible to support many browser to get
> > > border-box?
> > >
> > > hmm that would solve so many problems we have...
> > >
> > > So you let IE stay in quircks mode and have for firefox that
> > > -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
> > > and for other browsers (maybe IE7) the CSS3? standard: box-sizing:
> > > border-box;
> > >
> > > What is your doctype?
> > >
> > > johan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/18/06, *Matej Knopp* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >     Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> > >      > allow myself to quote...myself
> > >      >
> > >      > || imho, html is the best layout manager out there for browser
> > >     apps. add
> > >      > css to the mix and you have a great skin manager as well.
> > >      >
> > >      > i never said css was great for layout manager :) and yes the box
> > >     model
> > >      > is broken.
> > >     The box model really is broken. Therefore I always stick with IE box
> > >     model
> > >
> > >                             * {
> > >                                     box-sizing: border-box;
> > >                                     -moz-box-sizing: border-box;
> > >                             }
> > >
> > >     The only thing to take care of is not to allow IE6 to work in
> > >     standard-compliance mode. So far, I had no problems with this setup.
> > I'm
> > >     doing quite complicated layouts using just css (no tables) and
> > >     everything works fine. I just hope that IE7 won't screw everything
> > up.
> > >
> > >     -Matej
> > >
> > >      >
> > >      > -Igor
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      > On 5/17/06, *Johan Compagner* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >      > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
> > wrote:
> > >      >
> > >      >     ha! and css is easier then layout manager in java...
> > >      >     hmm that is not how i see it.
> > >      >     CSS is just plain horrible stupid box thing..
> > >      >
> > >      >     And what is a layout manager in css? There isn't one
> > >     everything is
> > >      >     sort of absoluut positioned and then you can do in swing also
> > >      >     (not recommended ofcourse)
> > >      >
> > >      >     johan
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >     On 5/17/06, *Igor Vaynberg* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote:
> > >      >
> > >      >         imho, html is the best layout manager out there for
> > browser
> > >      >         apps. add css to the mix and you have a great skin
> > >     manager as well.
> > >      >
> > >      >         the one thing you always hear swing developers bitching
> > >     about is
> > >      >         how they have to fight the layout managers to get the
> > results
> > >      >         they want. gridbaglayout is poweful but its a huge pain
> > >     to work
> > >      >         with.
> > >      >
> > >      >         matisse+grouplayout are the holy grail for swing devels,
> > its
> > >      >         nice and easy to create layouts. but it still requires a
> > >     gui to
> > >      >         do this, while i can do html easily by hand. also browser
> > >     screen
> > >      >         space doesnt translate easily to the desktop space. in
> > >     desktop
> > >      >         space you are pixel aware, you are also pixel aware of
> > your
> > >      >         fonts and the south east corner of the window. in html
> > >     you have
> > >      >         none of these things.
> > >      >
> > >      >         look at wingS framework examples, they use layout
> > >     managers. look
> > >      >         how rectangular their examples look.
> > >      >
> > >      >         -Igor
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >         On 5/17/06, *Frank Silbermann *
> > >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >      >         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
> > >      >
> > >      >             I, personally, don't care for HTML, and perhaps I
> > >     might enjoy
> > >      >             programming in Echo2 better.
> > >      >
> > >      >             But suppose an employer maintained an HTML fragment
> > with
> > >      >             links to their
> > >      >             entire portfolio of web applications, and wanted this
> > >      >             fragment to appear
> > >      >             on every page of each web application.  Since someone
> > >     else is
> > >      >             maintaining that scrap and keeping it up-to-date, I
> > would
> > >      >             not want to
> > >      >             translate it into Echo 2 and maintain my own copy.
> > >      >
> > >      >             Would it not likely be easier to incorporate such an
> > HTML
> > >      >             scrap into a
> > >      >             Wicket application, versus one written in a framework
> > >     such
> > >      >             as Echo 2
> > >      >             that abstracted away the HTML completely?
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >             -----Original Message-----
> > >      >             From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >      >             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > >      >             [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >      >             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] On Behalf
> > >      >             Of Eelco
> > >      >             Hillenius
> > >      >             Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:58 AM
> > >      >             To: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > >     <mailto:wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > >      >             <mailto: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > >     <mailto:wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> > >      >             Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] Google Web Toolkit
> > >     integration ?
> > >      >
> > >      >             >  It's certainly an intriguing idea (have a look at
> > >     haxe.org <http://haxe.org>
> > >      >             <http://haxe.org> if you find
> > >      >             >  it interesting), ...
> > >      >             ...
> > >      >             Yeah. I see some advantages of using layout managers
> > -
> > >      >             basically the
> > >      >             same promise as Swing has - but currently I would
> > still
> > >      >             prefer using
> > >      >             HTML for layout. If I would like the GWT way of
> > >     developing
> > >      >             applications, I would have choosen Echo 2 a long time
> > >     ago.
> > >      >             GWT looks
> > >      >             like a next gen Echo to me, though with a very big
> > name
> > >      >             behind it, and
> > >      >             some cool innovations. ... Eelco
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >
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