you dont see the ugly because the screencast is a freaking helloworld app
and the properties used are primitives.
its so typical, someone puts out a screencast of helloworld with zero
complexity because it is a helloworld and everyone jumps up and down
screaming: oh how cool is that?
i want to see a dynamic wizard example, or an example where navigation is
stack-like/breadcrumbs where you can go back to where you came from and have
the state of the previous page preserved.
i want to use a framework where i dont have to leak the index property of
loop's component into the page scope.
if you like tapestry so much then please go use tapestry.
-igor
On 11/22/06, cowwoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Again, I refer you to Tapestry. Obviously I wouldn't want the kind
of
URL you pasted but if you look at Tapestry's screencast they don't add
*anything* to the URL. Now, it could very well be that this is something
specific to small examples and does not work for bigger ones but it
could also very well be that Tapestry is handling this in some way we're
not familiar with.
Gili
Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> yeah? and what happens when your component property is not a primitive?
>
> are you then happy with
>
http://www.google.com/Start.html?param1=A98AS98AA8947A8947A8947A89478A97A94879A847A9879A8479A8479A847A9847A9487A4987A4987A498A749A8749A8479A84789A7498A7498A7498A47A9847A984789A7498A4
>
> which would be the base64 encoded string of that non primitive?
>
> or would you like to make everything into a post and have client pages
> get huge?
>
> or do you only restrict component properties to primitives?
>
> -igor
>
>
>
> On 11/22/06, *cowwoc* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>
> heh, if I had to choose between:
>
> http://www.google.com/Start.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.google.com/Main/Start?wicket:interface=:0::
>
> I'd choose the first time time and time again. There is the
> interface
> part which I'd love to hide from users (they shouldn't ever be
> explicitly pasting that anyway because you'll end up with Page
Expired)
> and there is also the fact that they don't seem to require some sort
of
> base context path or there is some sort of "magic" going on to hide
it.
> Either way it looks better than Wicket :)
>
> Gili
>
> Matej Knopp wrote:
> > Nice URLS?
> >
> > Well.. I don't know, to me it doesn't look that great. I mean it
> seem to
> > miss an information. What happens if you open the page in
multiple
> > browser windows? If the URL is same, how
> > will tapestry reconstruct the data?
> >
> > And also, does the Tapestry 5 finally supports dynamically
changing
> > components hierarchy? Or nested components? Or is it still the
[1]page
> > [0..n]Components approach?
> >
> > In Wicket the URLs will look much better in 2.0 than they look now
> - as
> > we will persist the mount path after requests, but it will take
some
> > time to implement.
> >
> > -Matej
> >
> > cowwoc wrote:
> >> Two questions about:
> >>
http://howardlewisship.com/blog/2006/10/tapestry-5-screencast-2.html
> >>
> >> 1) How did they get "instantaneous" page reloads working?
> >> 2) How did they get their URLs to remain "nice" even though the
> >> underlying state is changing?
> >>
> >> and what is the implications for Wicket? I suspect you guys
> have seen
> >> this before. Can you please comment on why Wicket does not do
> something
> >> similar? Is it something to do with the amount of client-side
> state they
> >> use?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Gili
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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