what do you think of gustav and eelco's IModelLocator / get/setModel idea?


Frank Silbermann wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't care much for getValue() because to me the word "value" suggests
> "atomic value" (or even "atomic constant") -- which is not the general
> case.
> 
> At first I thought of recommending getBusinessObject() to distinguish
> the result from the framework-oriented model classes, but that could be
> confusing if it were common practices to embed wicket models inside of
> wicket models (the Decorator pattern).  If that's they case, I would
> deprecate getModelObject() and replace it with getUnwrappedModel().
> 
> (Obviously, wicket documentation must somewhere explain the necessity of
> _wrapping_ business objects in Wicket model classes to be accessed by
> wicket components.  Once that process is understood, multiple levels of
> wrapping should not be too difficult to understand.)
> 
> 
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> Locke
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> Subject: Re: [Wicket-user] VOTE: IModel and 'model object' name change
> 
> 
> 
> yeah.  i agree.  if we did anything it would be better to change IModel
> as i said, but then just deprecate getModelObject() and add a preferred
> version as
> getModelValue() as johan suggested.  this would only break code that
> directly uses IModel (a more limited number of users).
> 
> 
> Eelco Hillenius wrote:
>> 
>> I voted -1, but here is my opinion about the change proper.
>> 
>>> public interface IModel<V> extends IDetachable
>>> {
>>>   V getValue();
>>>   void setValue(V value);
>>> }
>> 
>> This would be for the better imo, though I don't hate the original
>> getObject *that* much. It's just what you are used to and I think
>> documentation on how models should be used is a lot more important.
>> 
>> 
>>> we would also change getModelObject() to getValue() as well as any
> other
>>> related methods like getModelObjectAsString() to getValueAsString()
> (or
>>> valueAsString() if preferred).  there might be naming conflicts
> somewhere
>>> or
>>> other problems, but i don't know of any offhand.
>> 
>> Tbh, I actually don't think Component#getValue is for the better. I
>> think Component#getModelObject is way clearer than Component#getValue.
>> In the end I think both value and object are ambiguous, and this
>> should be fixed by documentation and examples.
>> 
>> Btw, If there is *anything* I never liked about the whole model
>> business, it is the fact that Component has methods to get the model
>> value in the first place (getModelObject etc).
>> 
>> The indirection that IModel provides is something to get used to. It
>> is one of the places where we traded clarity and simplicity for
>> flexibility. I think it'll be hard to grasp for newbies no matter the
>> naming, so the better our documentation and examples are, the quicker
>> they will be able to wrap their head around it.
>> 
>> Eelco
>> 
>>
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