Johan Compagner wrote: > In 2.0 we have a model change: [...] > 1> port it to 1.3 > > 2> don't port it to 1.3
I'm afraid I'm very much -1 on this for 1.3. I have a bunch of really complex models built using the current 1.3 models, and I expect other people do too. At the moment, 1.2.x -> 1.3 migration (even for a fairly complex site) isn't terribly complicated. Putting this in will make it so. I'd have probably an entire week's worth of rewriting and testing to update my code (yes, I do have that many complex wrapper models). I just won't have the time to do that before we want to be releasing beta and RC builds of 1.3, so I'd suddenly find myself without a nice big complex app to test against any more. I expect many many people would be in this situation. Models are one of the harder things to get your head around in Wicket, complicated wrapped ones doubly so. Forcing users to suddenly update large chunks of complex code won't happen - a lot of people will stick with their current SNAPSHOT 1.3 versions for a while until they have the time to devote to fixing this. This will mean the beta and RC builds won't as much testing, which is a really bad idea IMHO. In my opinion we could, within the next: ----------------------------------------- 1 week - Push 1.3-betas as-is. 2/3 weeks - Bug fix as people test it and push out rc's when we feel it's solid and stable. 4 weeks - Rename 1.x branch to 1.3.x. - Release 1.3.0 final and put 1.3.x immediately into maintenance mode. - Create 1.4.x branch from 1.3.0 tag. - Merge the model changes from trunk to 1.4.x. - Backport anything else from trunk to 1.4.x that's not JDK5-specific. 6 weeks - Push out 1.4-betas 7/8 weeks - Push out 1.4-rc's 9 weeks - Push out 1.4.0 final - Create 1.5.x branch from 1.4.0 tag. - Backport/add generics, covariance and other JDK 5 trunk features to the 1.5.x branch. - Move trunk to "2.0_deprecated_-_use_1.5.x_instead" 14+ weeks - Release 1.5.0 Suggestions to make this work: ------------------------------ We won't backport from 1.4.x -> 1.3.x. We won't actively develop trunk. We will push 1.4 out very soon after 1.3, and encourage migration. We will have this in a public roadmap so people can see it coming. Notes on what you think is insanity, but actually isn't: -------------------------------------------------------- We will of course end up with five(!) branches (1.2.x, 1.3.x, 1.4.x, 1.5.x and what's currently trunk). This may seem like madness to you, but I reckon it isn't: During 1.3 development, 2.x is low activity, 1.2.x negligible. During 1.4 development, 1.3.x and 2.x are low, 1.2.x negligible. During 1.5 development, only 1.4.x will also be quite active. Once 1.5.0 is out, we can properly deprecate 2.0. People currently using it may not like being told to migrate to 1.5.x, but that shouldn't be too hard (much less hard than going from 1.3->2.0) and there shouldn't be too many of them. I guess that's the price you sometimes pay for using unreleased software. :-/ I'd envisage 1.4.x will require some backports from 1.5.x. We'd obviously encourage core developers and patchers to upgrade their sites to use 1.5.x, do active development on that, and therefore try to only ever backport from 1.5.x to 1.4.x, not forward-port the other way around. If you think I'm smoking crack, the above is utterly unreasonable, you want to kick me out of the gang, or you have any better ideas or suggestions as to how to keep everyone happy, please shout now. :-) Best regards, Alastair ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Wicket-user mailing list Wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wicket-user