Let's back up here a minute.

First off, you are a thankless idiot for thinking that these guys doing open source software, to your benefit, with absolutely no compensation from you, are anything like the relationship you have with your clients. Do you work for free for your clients? No, I didn't think so. (Any synapses firing for you yet?)

Secondly, I am personally affronted by your attacks and insults against these gentlemen because you have some kind of identity crisis or were born some form of eunuch and left in a trash can. Where the hell do you get off doing anything but praising these guys for creating the value that you are selling to your customers and putting food on your own table with? The rest of us are *very* thankful to these guys, and when people like you come around any open source project spewing insults, you are not just attacking them, you are attacking each and every one of the people in the open source community... and especially those of us that use Wicket.

I hope you have the guts to realize what an ass you are making of yourself and stand up and apologize. Not for any of our sake, we've seen your type before and it rolls right off. It's for your own sake, because in five years when you look back at this incident (and the countless others like it), you are going to hate yourself for who you are. And that's a lot worse than anything we could ever say against you.

Brian

p.s. As for your gracious offer to RTFM, welcome to how we all do it. The source is the best documentation there is. Get used to it.

On Mar 19, 2007, at 2:25 AM, Udora wrote:

Hi Igor,

First of all, I would want to say that I've solved the problem myself and having now a great table component with all what I needed. And I also want to say that I don't think I owe you as a developer anything for using Wicket. Of course being an open source developer, you have the luxury to tell your clients that. In my world, I try to be helpful to my clients even with the insults that occasionally come with their being in bad mood. In all those circumstances I strife to be client friendly, even when I've had the worst sleep ever, or my girlfriend denied me sex the previous night. Because of the my impression so far, I've decided to download the Wicket source and look for answers to my future questions there. Probably I'd be less productive that way but unfortunately I don't clearly see any other alternative. Have a nice day, even when you couldn't get sufficient caffeine dose for the day.

On 3/18/07, Igor Vaynberg < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
so not having the _personal_ time to answer every single question that is on this list makes us arrogant? that is great!

do you think i would rather spend my time pumping you for information or spend that time in a park playing with my daughter? maybe if you wouldve spent more then two minutes of your time writing up an appropriate question with code examples or a quickstart project instead of something so vague it is useless someone wouldve bothered to reply.

remember: just because you are using wicket it doesnt mean the developers owe you anything. look at the threads on this list, quiet a lot of them are answered by other users. why do you think none of them answered yours?

and unlike eelco i do hope this comes across as arrogant because your email was very disrespectful.

-igor


On 3/18/07, Udora < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,

I was attracted to Wicket because of its finesse and all the stories around praising how helpful their developers and user community are and the quick response one receives when you post a question. I must say, my experience has been bad so far. I posed the question below 2 days ago and still no response. I've known frameworks whose developers were also initially very helpful but became arrogant when they got the popularity and success. I hope Wicket is not getting on that slippery road.



On 3/16/07, Udora <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Hi,

I'm implementing a form with a table component as one of its component. The table has some textfields columns. The problem is that upon submit my model is not updated to reflect the values filled in the textfields. Can someone point me to an example where this sort of thing is implemented? I've already looked in Wicket examples but couldn't find anything.

Thanks,


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