>i am not sure if the server team has changed that mode, but probably it
should be development mode is on production servers. Does it cause any
problem? 
 
well, in developement mode the system is slower and memory problems could
occur sometimes (e.g.: just search in list for "too much open files
problem") 
 
easy spoken: developement mode is called that way because its intended to be
used solely for this ;)
 
 


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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Kadir
Sener GUMUS
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Mai 2007 09:59
An: wicket-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Wicket-user] Pattern for seperation of Java and Html -Comments
Welcome


Hi Johan,
as i said before, three leading technology has been used in the project;
wicket,hibernate and spring. the all sites are served by wicket in one war
application. Additionally, a CMS application is used for html contents and
wicket dynamically injects dynamic components. Oh you might have a look of
dertour.de,adac and mwr, yes these sites have different booking
functionalities than others, so that's why they have iframe about product
workflow and inside different application of the company. But avigo,
atlasreisen and der.de sites have own booking functionalities powered by
several backend engines.
i am not sure if the server team has changed that mode, but probably it
should be development mode is on production servers. Does it cause any
problem? 
Tags and ids have been left, because we need to know them sometimes to dig
further about any bug/problem. Because panel replacement is used in many
workflow of pages, and we have many panels,components and pages (totaly
almost 2690 classes). 
 
Kadir Sener GÜMÜS

 
On 5/24/07, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

nice, but how much is done in wicket?
it seems a combination with other stuff (or are not many things really
dynamic?) 
because if i look at the source then the basket is wicket made but the rest
of the page is something else. 

i also see the wicket tags and ids everywhere. Do you start wicket in
development mode on your server? 

johan



On 5/23/07, Kadir Sener GUMUS <  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi, i would like to share our experiences of our wicket project. Our project
is a turism portal which has booking functionalities with different products
and tourism guides,contents etc.  I want to draw your attention that
"tourism guides,contents" part!  That would mean lots of wicket pages
because of thousands of different touristic places, pictures, texts,
different layouts and so on. But it have been successfully separated as html
development and java development in the project. 
There is a wicket page that responsible for showing those static contents
inside. Every static site page has "resourceId" parameter and this parameter
is processed and returned in "getVariation()" overriden method. How wicket
knows panels and components inside a contentPage on runtime. The answer is
behind "autoAdd()" method. Implement " IComponentResolver" interface and its
"resolve(MarkupContainer container, MarkupStream markupStream, ComponentTag
tag)" method in your content page. Inside that implemented method, a content
service finds and returns the component with " tag.getId()". Then component
is added by "autoAdd(component)". This is java part of dynamically component
resolving and adding to markup render. (also have a look in
AutoComponentResolver class)
In html content part, a commercial CMS application is used to manage static
contents such as guides, tourism contents, any layout with "wicket:id"
attributes for components which will be loaded dynamically. 
I am grateful to wicket-guys for that they created a framework like this.
Because, at once and ever first time in my programing life, i didnt care
about html part of the application :) Since all you know, html developers
create web site and html layouts, and then we -as developers- had put our
dynamic code blocks, expressions, custom jsp tags etc. at past! 
here are the urls of our application for example to a wicket application in
such a heavy-loaded ecommerce:
www.avigo.de <http://www.avigo.de/>  , www.dertour.de
<http://www.dertour.de/> , www.atlasreisen.de <http://www.atlasreisen.de/> ,
www.der.de <http://www.der.de/> , www.meiers-weltreisen.de
<http://www.meiers-weltreisen.de/> , www.adacreisen.de
<http://www.adacreisen.de/> 
these sites can be completely success-stories of Wicket-Hibernate-Spring
triology. 
Regards,

 
Kadir Sener GUMUS


 
On 5/22/07, mchack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Thanks for the reply. Not suggesting it should be part of the main
distribution. I am new to the framework and was trying to see if what I 
proposed made sense. I want to make sure that I don't hinder or create
barriers to content creation on our portal and wanted to do it in a manner
that made sense. Maybe there are other ways to manage "separation of 
concerns".

In general are their recommended best practices regarding coordination and
workflow between the pure HTML designers and Java coders? In the component
model, seems like an HTML designer will come up with basic look and feel, 
CSS, etc. and then the people on the framework side will
refactor/"componentize" the markup. At this point the original markup may
now be generated by an OO refactoring involving a number of new
pages/components to insert dynamic content/behavior. The original design is 
now split into a variety of new pages and will no longer be readily
accessible to the original designer as they now have to work on a variety of
fragments. Any references to how to keep the HTML development happy would be

appreciated.

Thanks


Eelco Hillenius wrote:
>
> Well, it's something you can quite easily do yourself. See
> org.apache.wicket.examples.customresourceloading. Unless I don't 
> understand what you mean, it doesn't sound like something that should
> be a generic facility in Wicket to me.
>
> Eelco
>
>
> On 5/22/07, mchack < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
>>
>> I know this is topic has been discussed frequently and I fully agree with
>> the
>> current packaging methodology. There are many case where it would be nice

>> to
>> have content easily included that was produced by the HTML designer
>> without
>> having to associate a corresponding java class. I think I have a solution
>> that is workable and doesn't violate the current best practices. Let me 
>> know
>> if I am missing something.
>>
>> In certain cases for content such as press releases or other user
>> generated
>> content I would like to enable inclusion of pure content as a "component"

>> in
>> a Wicket page. I am contemplating a component that would do the
>> following.
>>
>> - Extend one of the existing containers such as WebComponent.
>> - This component when inserted in a page would get the actual source html

>> from a Page Parameter such as http://host/wicketapp?RealPage.html or
>> http://host/wicketapp?content=RealPage.html
<http://host/wicketapp?content=RealPage.html> .
>> - RealPage.html identifies the location of the content to be inserted.
>>
>> In this way I can create a wicket template for the main containment page 
>> and
>> then use it typically to insert the user generated content. This gives me

>> the flexibility I want without having to generate a class for all
>> included
>> content. 
>>
>> Am I missing something here?
>>
>> Thanks
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