True, Swarm does not yet provide blackbox authentication against ldap,
cas or whatever else, but it allows you to customize your own
authentication allowing you to implement any of those models. And the
time not spend on fixing all your urls for acegi can now be spend on
implementing cas or ldap for swarm :)

Maurice

On 5/29/07, Jan Kriesten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi martijn,
>
> >> what i really dislike about acegi is the spring/xml-stuff. but that's 
> >> another
> >> story... ;-)
> >
> > If you take the spring/xml and the URL based authorization out of
> > Acegi, what is left?
> >
> > Not a stab at Acegi, just asking.
>
> hehe - now i'm having to argue pro acegi where i'm not yet finished finding 
> out
> if it really is what i'm looking for. *ggg*
>
> first of all, what i dislike is the xml-/spring-injection-dependent
> configuration. everything else is not tight to spring, it can be used in any
> other environment.
>
> everything else is:
>
> acegi supports a wide range of authentication models. from http basic
> authentication headers, ldap to jaas - you just have to choose.
>
> also, the authorization is as customizable as is e.g. swarm. like in swarm, 
> you
> have to define your policies. it's just an implementation detail, if you use 
> it
> url- or component-based.
>
> so, when thinking about authentication/authorization, i don't think of a
> one-time-installation at one defined customer but how it can be integrated 
> into
> a variety of heterogenous systems. having a wicket application running in a
> system using a service-oriented-approach, i might have to use a ticketing 
> system
> (like cas) to handle authorization. acegi delivers such functionality.
>
> best regards, --- jan.
>
>
>
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