Jonathan,
I Couldn't agree more, but it is a common critic in the web about wicket.
And if you see the spreadsheet you'll know I needed to say something not so
good about it. Impartiality 0. >_>
f(t)
On 6/20/07, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
very interesting. but i don't agree with the spreadsheet that wicket is
not
good
for "million clicks per minute sites". with a good back-end architecture
and the
right tuning, wicket ought to be able to sustain that kind of load as well
as
any other web framework. the big difference is that in wicket you aren't
stuck
with a non-existent or poor man's component model where you manage all
your
state by hand just so you can optimize a few hot pages. you can do real OO
programming with all the great productivity you get from writing real
components
with very few optimizations across probably 95% of your site and then roll
up your
sleeves /after looking at a profiler/ to tune the other 5% of your site
(probably the
home page and a handful of common destinations).
Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail wrote:
>
> Yes, thanks. We evaluated the following frameworks:
>
> Struts-2 (reviewed by me)
> SpringMVC (reviewed by a coworker)
> JFS (reviewed by a coworker)
> Click (reviewed by a coworker)
> Wicket (reviewed by a cowerker and then by me in a second chance kind of
> deal)
>
> Other-ones (Tapestry, Webworks, etc) where discarded in a very overview
> like
> process.
>
> JFS was the first to go. Very complex if no netbeans and taglibs hell,
> etc.
>
> SpringMVC had a huge acceptance in the community although after
reviewing
> it
> and experience al xml complexity it got to the point we question the
> community itself.
>
> Similiar with Struts2 although we saw an important reduction of
> configuration. But it was something else (webworx 2) trying to do Struts
I
> guess. Taglibs were there and we all agreed on their uglyness and stupid
> concept. Lets do HTML + TAGLIBS + JAVA CODE but lets not put JSP enbeded
> code on the JSP file. Nonesence!!!
>
> One aspect was the some of us came to love seaside (web-framework for
> squeak/smalltalk) and so we came across Click and the second chance for
> Wicket.
>
> Wicket was originally rejected because one of my coworkers who was in
> charge
> of building the demo sample, downloaded the Kick-Start kit (I don't
> remember
> the name, maybe quick-start or something of the sort). He had some
trouble
> building it, he then tried to copy/paste some code from the web, and in
my
> opinion gave zero interest in anything. He just complaint about it and
> then
> it was dropped.
>
> As I was working with Struts-2 and bothering in everyday basis our
project
> leader so he would consider seaside I read nice reviews about wicket,
> pluss
> ask my brother who I usually trust and told me only good things about
it.
>
> So because of the lack of "evidence" or better put, because of the not
so
> deep explanation of why was wicket dumped, I kind of thought that a very
> common thing had occured. I don't give a crap, let me keep googling
> arround.
>
> Thats when I decided to speak with our PM and ask him if I could give it
a
> try, a left Struts-2 (thanks god) and started with wicket. Because I am
a
> lazy bastard I turn to the list to answer me some preatty dumb questions
> so
> I could get a WicketDemo working.
>
> It was an awsome ride, thanks again.
>
> I attached a Comparison chart of Struts-2 Click and Wicket, that we
> created.
> It is nothing fancy nor it is so serious. But I'll attached anyway.
>
> f(t)
>
> PS: I am currently verry busy, but I expect to get some time near agust
so
> I
> can start contributing. I am currently on three other projects but it
> looks
> one of those is going to finish.
>
>
>
> On 6/20/07, craigdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Great news Francisco,
>>
>> So give us the dirt, what made your company ultimately go with wicket?
>> Which other frameworks where you considering.
>>
>> -Craig
>>
>>
>> Francisco Diaz Trepat - gmail wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi guys, from a discarded framework to the choice in hand. Wicket was
>> > chosen
>> > by my company to start a migration project of its products.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to get latest 1.3 beta2 with java 1.5?
>> >
>> > to get started... ;-)
>> >
>> > Thanks to ALL of you for all your help.
>> >
>> >
>> > ELCO... THE BOOK MAN. COME ON!!!
>> >
>> > jejejeje
>> >
>> > Well great news for me because wicket kicks ass!!!
>> >
>> > f(t)
>> >
>> >
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