On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:43:02PM -0700, MAHDI SALMANI HIRMAND wrote: > Dear Prof. Blaha, > I am studying possible pressure-induced transition for some compounds. > stefaan guide me how i can calculate Gibbs energy and find the pressure. > > He told me "you can easily calculated the enthalpy H=E+PV using > case.eosfit and case.eosfitb. Repeat for the second phase, and see > at which pressure the two enthalpy curves intersect." > > i did it > but the two enthalpy > curves are almost the same and it is difficult > finding the position > which two enthalpy curves intersect. > usually > in paper they find difference of enthalpy energy from two phases and > > therefore the pressure which in it DeltaG or DeltaH=0
This is appraching a tutorial. Mr. X, can you help me to do my homework? I'm solving this difficult problem and there are not authomatic tools. What can I do. Answer: Try to learn a little. QUESTION: how i can calculate Gibbs energy and find the pressure? ASUMPTION: Do you already have The E(V) curve por several volumes. POINTS: 1) In highly symmetrical phases the volume is directly related to a lattice parameter and all internal positions of the atoms are fixed by symmetry. Crystalographers would say the atoms are occupying Wykoff positions of multiplicity 1. 2) In less symmetric phases there are other degrees of freedom. Let us call them $\vec{x}$. If you have some formation on crystallography (and the problem you are asking for is a crystallography problem). in that systems you must solve the problem $E(V) = \min_{\vec{x}}^{V=V_0} E(V,\vec{x})$ and build a table of E versus V. In all points keeping the SAME crystallographic structure The same solid state phase. Then introducing the effect of pressure is trivial. You decide it. If p=10 GPa the Gibbs energy is: G(p) = E(V) + pV To reflect all the thermodynamic variables that influence the problem: $G(p,T) = E(V(\vec{x})) + pV(\vec{x}) - TS(\vec{x})$ If you are interested in pressure-driven phase transitions you can assume T=0~K. Of course, thermal effects are important. Peter Debje (Debye if you follow the way he decided to write his name when travaling to US) dis reseach on that and you can study the result of his research and learn a little more looking for the seminal paper of the GIBBS code. In fact, using the gibbs code you can transform the E(V) data in a G(p,T) estimation. If you have the more complete E(V) + vibronic spectra ($\vec{x}$) you can use the gibbs2 code, ... >From the E(V) curve you can obtain parameters, like the bulk modulus. Tn fact using the gibbs code you will have estimations of any thermodynamic property for a single crystalline phase. If the number of points you determine on the E(V) curve is large enough you can even gain some knowledge on the statistical errors associated to the thermodynamic properties. Let me stop here. You can find about gibbs and gibbs2 in CPC (Comput Phys Comm). An yoou can find some of the work done on the subject studying a little about some of the PhD students that I've helped to form. In the particular subject you want to transit: Miguel Álvarez Blanco (main person behind gibbs, death in his youth, but his work will live for a LONG TIME) in fact, the paper on the gibbs still code receive tens to hundreds of citations every year since published in 2004. Alberto Otero-de-la-Roza (main person behind gibbs2, currently working in Canada) If you are really interested on the subject of high pressure maybe the activity of the Malta-Consolider project might be of your interest. The project has ended the subvention of our government, but the activities done are still visible in the web. Regards, Dr: Víctor Luaña -- \|/ |^.^| +---!OO--\_/--OO!------------------------------+----------------------- ! Dr.Víctor Luaña ! ! Departamento de Química Física y Analítica ! ! Universidad de Oviedo, 33006-Oviedo, Spain ! ! e-mail: %%vic...@fluor.quimica.uniovi.es%% ! ! phone: +34-985-103491 fax: +34-985-103125 ! +----------------------------------------------+ GroupPage : http://azufre.quimica.uniovi.es/ (being reworked) Instititional email: <vlu...@uniovi.es> _______________________________________________ Wien mailing list Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/mailman/listinfo/wien SEARCH the MAILING-LIST at: http://www.mail-archive.com/wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/index.html