Dear Pascal,

I think that in such a case you definitely need to include the spin-orbit coupling to insure that the bands will be properly treated near the Fermi energy, for instance.

Indeed, in the lift of the degeneracies spin-orbit will be significant and can really play a role in stabilizing a specific spin configuration.

I will not go towards runfsm, but I will first try to define a starting point with no magnetic moments on the expected "non-magnetic elements".

Experimentally Pb31TlTe32 is metallic or semiconductor?

Best regards

Xavier


On 30/10/2022 16:30, pboulet wrote:
All right, so here are the MMTOT data:

Starting point of SCF: 123.85779
Converged: 0.05631

And MMI ones:
Starting point:
:MMINT:  MAGNETIC MOMENT IN INTERSTITIAL  = 71.11022
:MMI001: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   1    =  1.03742
:MMI002: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   2    =  1.03736
:MMI003: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   3    =  0.62202
:MMI004: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   4    =  0.62205
:MMI005: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   5    =  1.03746
:MMI006: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   6    =  0.62203
:MMI007: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   7    =  0.62196
:MMI008: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   8    =  1.03238
:MMI009: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   9    =  0.62236
:MMI010: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  10    =  0.29692

Converged:
:MMINT:  MAGNETIC MOMENT IN INTERSTITIAL  =  0.04102
:MMI001: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   1    =  0.00000
:MMI002: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   2    = -0.00015
:MMI003: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   3    =  0.00028
:MMI004: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   4    =  0.00029
:MMI005: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   5    = -0.00003
:MMI006: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   6    =  0.00030
:MMI007: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   7    =  0.00027
:MMI008: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   8    =  0.00104
:MMI009: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE   9    =  0.00038
:MMI010: MAGNETIC MOMENT IN SPHERE  10    =  0.00128

Obviously the system converges towards a non-spin polarized state.

From the literature, there has been some experimental investigation on, e.g., Pb(1-x)Tl(x)Te (x=0.001-0.02). One can read: [..] Various mechanisms** which can lead to observable anomalies, including Kondo-like behavior of a *non-magnetic degenerate two-level system* are discussed.

So maybe the structure is non-magnetic.

** related to thermoelectric power

Now let’s say I want to make sure this is a non-magnetic compound by enforcing a magnetic state (in which case the total energy should be higher than for the non-magnetic state), I should run runfsm_lapw and change case.inst to enforce a spin polarization right at the beginning, shouldn’t I?


Pascal



Le 30 oct. 2022 à 14:04, fabien.t...@vasp.at a écrit :

Dear Pascal,

Depending on the system it may be possible to stabilize more than one magnetic state. In such cases, the magnetic state obtained at the end of the calculation typically depends on the initial magnetic state when starting the calculation. What was the initial magnetic state in your calculation? Grep for :MMTOT (total moment in cell) or :MMI (moment on atoms) in case.scf to see how these quantities evolved during the SCF procedure. Is Pb31TlTe32 supposed to be magnetic according to experiment?

On 30.10.2022 13:07, pboulet wrote:
Dear all,
I am investigating Pb31TlTe32 in which Tl is the only element that
bring an odd number of electrons.
I have set up a spin-polarized calculation with init_lapw, but not
with an anti-ferromagnetic state.
As a starting point, I do not include spin-orbit and I use PBE.
NOE=959 in the structure.
After converging the SCF, I end up with the following (to me strange)
occupation states:
For spin up:
:BAN00479: 479    0.272337    0.309267  1.00000000
:BAN00480: 480    0.283605    0.328642  0.50431432
:BAN00481: 481    0.371927    0.455285  0.00000000
For spin down:
:BAN00479: 479    0.272405    0.309306  1.00000000
:BAN00480: 480    0.283720    0.328787  0.49568569
:BAN00481: 481    0.372018    0.455369  0.00000000
I rather expected to have 480 spin up occupied states with 1 electron
and 479 spin down occupied states with 1 electron, but I have
something like a closed-shell spin polarized state.
Is it what we should expect?
If not, could you please explain me what happens and eventually how to
remedy this to have a ‘real’ spin polarized state?
Thank you
Pascal
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