Thx. Do you have the URL, or title? I can't find it on the web. > -----Original Message----- > From: Felipe Ortega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: November 15, 2008 12:43 PM > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities; Desilets, Alain > Subject: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular contributor" > > --- El vie, 14/11/08, Desilets, Alain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > escribió: > > > De: Desilets, Alain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Asunto: RE: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular contributor" > > Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Research into Wikimedia content and > > communities" <wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > Fecha: viernes, 14 noviembre, 2008 2:32 Regarding this, I have had > > heard different stories about contributors. > > > > I seem to recall one study that concluded that, while 85% of the > > **edits** are done by a small core of contributors, if you take a > > random page and select a sentence from it, this sentence is more > > likely to be the result of edits by contributors from the "long tail" > > than core contributors. I forget the reference for that study though. > > > > Does someone on this list have solid information about this? I think > > it's a fairly crucial piece of information that we should have a > clear > > handle on as a research community. > > > > Hi, Alain. Yes, the study is by Aaron Schwartz. It was a base premise > in our last paper at HICSS 08, comparing his statement to the theory of > Jimmy Wales about the core of very active users. > > Actually, both are right (more or less :) ). If you look at it from the > "per_user" perspective, the core can be identified very precisely. > > But your question is focused on "per_article" statistics. It's logical > to expect so, since the distribution of distinct authors per article > follows a stepped power-law, and you have a lot of articles in the > larger editions. If you pick an article at random, chances are that you > will, most probably, pick one with few editors. > > Best, > > Felipe. > > > Alain > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:wiki- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Felipe Ortega > > > Sent: November 13, 2008 5:33 PM > > > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > > > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular > > contributor" > > > > > > You have a very similar effect in larger Wikipedias. > > In those ones, > > > there is no very active, "single bus"-like > > contributor, but a core of > > > very active users concentrating about 85% of the total > > number of edits > > > per month. > > > > > > It seems that in these languages, though, there is a > > generational relay > > > in which new active users jump into the core to > > substitute those who > > > eventually give up, for any reason. So, the > > concentration becomes > > > stable after a couple of years (aprox.) and the > > encyclopedia is able to > > > continue growing. > > > > > > Best. > > > > > > F. > > > > > > > > > --- El jue, 23/10/08, Gerard Meijssen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > escribió: > > > > > > > De: Gerard Meijssen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Asunto: Re: [Wiki-research-l] "Regular > > contributor" > > > > Para: "Research into Wikimedia content and > > communities" > > > > <wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > > > > Fecha: jueves, 23 octubre, 2008 10:27 Hoi, I missed that this was > > > > the research mailing > > list.. my fault. > > > > Consequently my answer was not appropriate. With > > this in mind, it is > > > > interesting to learn how the spread is in > > particularly the smaller > > > > projects. In my opinion there must be a certain > > amount of productive > > > > people in order to get to a community that does > > not have one person > > > > who is the "bus factor". > > > > > > > > Having someone who drives the bus is really > > important. I wonder how > > > > you can point this person out. I think that > > someone who is just > > > > editing is important but it is not all that > > builds a community. > > > > Thanks, > > > > GerardM > > > > > > > > On the Volapuk wikipedia Smeira was really > > important. When he left, I > > > > understand that activity collapsed. > > > > > > > > 2008/10/22 phoebe ayers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > 2008/10/21 Gerard Meijssen > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > >> Hoi, > > > > >> When you divide people up in groups, > > when you > > > > single out the ones "most > > > > >> valuable", you in effect divide the > > > > community. Whatever you base your > > > > >> metrics on, there will be sound > > arguments to deny > > > > the point of view. When it > > > > >> is about the number of edits, it is > > clear to the > > > > pure encyclopedistas that > > > > >> most of the policy wonks have not > > supported what > > > > is the "real" aim of the > > > > >> project. > > > > >> > > > > >> When you label groups of people, you > > divide them > > > > and it is exactly the > > > > >> egalitarian aspect that makes the > > community > > > > thrive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But this isn't about labeling people for > > the rest > > > > of time and saying that > > > > > this is how they are defined *on Wikipedia* > > -- > > > > it's about saying how do you > > > > > study people who regularly contribute to > > Wikipedia, > > > > and as a part of that > > > > > how do you define the group that you are > > studying, > > > > which is an important > > > > > question for any research study. > > > > > > > > > > Given that it's impossible to study > > every > > > > contributor to the project in > > > > > every study, and since many researchers are > > interested > > > > in why people who > > > > > spend a lot of time or effort working on > > Wikipedia do > > > > so (and what exactly > > > > > it is they do), this is a very relevant > > question for > > > > this list. > > > > > > > > > > --phoebe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > >
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